Another E-petition gets almost the same negative response
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And of course, there's absolutely no incentive whatsoever for the government do anything anyway.
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Although, as others have said, by continuing to point out the inequality of it, the completely predictable outcome is that the index-linking will be stopped everywhere else. And rightly so.
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We are older than most immigrants and therefore have worked and paid into the system in the UK for some years. I imagine that those who tell us that we should suck it up and not complain have nothing to gain from being treated fairly. We do not have time to build up a Canadian pension and therefore our UK pension will be all or the most we can claim.
Anyway that’s my opinion and I shall be joining any pension campaigns in Canada that I can find now.
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The only thing any of these complaints will achieve is the UK government admitting that you have a point. And then ending index linking for everyone who lives outside the UK.
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- Equalising pension age which it's now doing
- Ending sex discrimination with widows/widowers benefits which it's already had to do
- Changing rules regarding habitual residency
- Capitalisation rules for Income Tax - Taxes had to be repaid
- Illegal tax on chocolate teacakes - taxes to be refunded
- The latest one (from the UN this time) about libel laws.
The problem is that 'human rights' keeps getting a mention. I don't know if this is a technicality involving the appropriate ruling body's name or what. IMO it's not a human rights issue, merely a simple discrimination issue.
I knew my pension would be frozen when I decided to move to Canada. I don't understand why that somehow means I have to accept the discrimination without complaining.
Rules and laws are constantly changing. That happens because people push for change. Nobody tells you to just accept them because those are the rules. Why do some people do that on this topic?
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For those who found the Pensions Parity UK website somewhat underwhelming, you may wish to go and check it out again. The Webmaster has made some major styling improvements and it's now very easy to find a great deal of important information.
Those who care enough to take some action will find this resource particularly useful.
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Today we have a response to another 10 Downing Street e-petition from New Zealand. The nay-sayers will not be surprised to hear its the same old, same old. At least the bureaucrats managed to copy and paste their old response without error this time.
In summary, the government is saying we will only do what we have accepted as our legal obligations in the past. We will not reconsider whether moral or logical considerations should suggest that we change the law.
In summary, the government is saying we will only do what we have accepted as our legal obligations in the past. We will not reconsider whether moral or logical considerations should suggest that we change the law.
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Oh please for the love of [a random] god give it up.
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Yeah I know what you're getting at and if ANYONE had the right to moan and whinge you do. BUT (with the EXTREMELY RARE exception) I never hear you complain. (well not about the way life treats you).![Thumbs Up](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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Yeah I know what you're getting at and if ANYONE had the right to moan and whinge you do. BUT (with the EXTREMELY RARE exception) I never hear you complain. (well not about the way life treats you).
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BTW any word from the butchers??
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[QUOTE=Jingsamichty;6676696][QUOTE=BWelford;6676568]Meanwhile 10 Downing Street is now Twittering, another attention-getting activity to take them away from the real priorities.
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Man, you gotta love single-issue fanatics!
If I were PM I'd offer to give the index-linked rise to everyone, but only on the proviso that they collect their pensions in person at a UK Post Office every Tuesday morning.
Otherwise shut the f*** up and be grateful you're able to collect anything. It's more than most of us who are still years off pension age will ever get.
Ok he may be going on a bit and I'm also not totally convinced that we deserve it once we leave the sinking ship.
BUT you can't deny his point, WTF do non commonwealth countries get treated differently. Our friends who moved to the states over 30years ago, were tracked down by the pensions agency and offered the full pension despite no contributions since and certainly no need of it. So might I humbly suggest that you stick to constructive comment on a subject that may be relevant to quite a few people on here. We may not all be rich and young and hansom. I'm only two of those myself
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Man, you gotta love single-issue fanatics!
If I were PM I'd offer to give the index-linked rise to everyone, but only on the proviso that they collect their pensions in person at a UK Post Office every Tuesday morning.
Otherwise shut the f*** up and be grateful you're able to collect anything. It's more than most of us who are still years off pension age will ever get.
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