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You wouldn't be sponging. You already paid for it and are entitled to it. As a matter of interest I just helped a previous doubter who thought it wasn't worth his while to see what he will be entitled to at retirement. He had written his UK pension off and forgotten about when he came here many years ago. Just like some of you seem to be doing. He is smiling now because between him and his Canadian born wife, who never worked in the UK but will still get 60% of wheat he gets, will get a pension of 51 pounds 92p a week ! Over 200 quid a month for life. He thinks he's won the lottery. All found money. So don't dismiss it out of hand. You may be very surprised.

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For Christ sake I paid in for a year in 1962/63 when I was earning £3 per week.

I would be sponging if I were to attempt to collect on that. :curse::curse:

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Even as a CABP volunteer I couldn't agree more. I have tried to get it changed but I'm fighting some tough old geezers. However folks, if you can just get by that and see what is being done on behalf of all of us. Believe me the organization is a good one so don't be turned off by the site. The quarterly publication is much better

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Since this was a reply to my post, I'll bite. This fruitless and pointless petition did nothing on my behalf. I certainly didn't sign anybody's silly petition.

I moved to Canada in the full knowledge that my state pension wouldn't be index linked. I have taken account of that fact and made other arrangements. Nothing is going to change as a result of stupid on-line petitions. Nobody with anything more productive to do pays any attention to them anyway.

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Bullshit. It IS sponging. If people don't live in a country and don't pay taxes there, or spend the money in the local economy and pay local VAT etc, then petitioning to take even more money out of that country IS sponging.
In fact, it is absolutely shameless.

Have a bit of dignity and self-respect. Stop trying to squeeze British taxpayers for more cash for yourself.

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And of course, there's absolutely no incentive whatsoever for the government do anything anyway.

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Quite.

Although, as others have said, by continuing to point out the inequality of it, the completely predictable outcome is that the index-linking will be stopped everywhere else. And rightly so.

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I have to say I wonder about the opinions of some of the participants to the BE forum. Why shouldn’t we get the same deal as everyone else living abroad. My husband and me left the UK because at the time my husband could not get a job. So as not to be a drain he accepted a job in Calgary and we were brought out to Canada in record time. Luckily Canada has been very good to us and we are still here.

We are older than most immigrants and therefore have worked and paid into the system in the UK for some years. I imagine that those who tell us that we should suck it up and not complain have nothing to gain from being treated fairly. We do not have time to build up a Canadian pension and therefore our UK pension will be all or the most we can claim.

Anyway that’s my opinion and I shall be joining any pension campaigns in Canada that I can find now.

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The only thing any of these complaints will achieve is the UK government admitting that you have a point. And then ending index linking for everyone who lives outside the UK.

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"A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that involves promising or paying abnormally high returns ("profits") to investors out of the money paid in by subsequent investors, rather than from net revenues generated by any real business."

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Other than another embarrassing ruling that the UK is discriminating unfairly or acting unlawfully when the UK gov thinks it's not. The ruling will be added to the others that had to be acted upon, some of which include:

• Equalising pension age which it's now doing
• Ending sex discrimination with widows/widowers benefits which it's already had to do
• Changing rules regarding habitual residency
• Capitalisation rules for Income Tax - Taxes had to be repaid
• Illegal tax on chocolate teacakes - taxes to be refunded
• The latest one (from the UN this time) about libel laws.

The problem is that 'human rights' keeps getting a mention. I don't know if this is a technicality involving the appropriate ruling body's name or what. IMO it's not a human rights issue, merely a simple discrimination issue.

I knew my pension would be frozen when I decided to move to Canada. I don't understand why that somehow means I have to accept the discrimination without complaining.

Rules and laws are constantly changing. That happens because people push for change. Nobody tells you to just accept them because those are the rules. Why do some people do that on this topic?

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For those who found the Pensions Parity UK website somewhat underwhelming, you may wish to go and check it out again. The Webmaster has made some major styling improvements and it's now very easy to find a great deal of important information.

Those who care enough to take some action will find this resource particularly useful.

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Today we have a response to another 10 Downing Street e-petition from New Zealand. The nay-sayers will not be surprised to hear its the same old, same old. At least the bureaucrats managed to copy and paste their old response without error this time.

In summary, the government is saying we will only do what we have accepted as our legal obligations in the past. We will not reconsider whether moral or logical considerations should suggest that we change the law.

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Oh please for the love of [a random] god give it up.

Some us have lives.

R.:zzz:

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Thats right Rich SOME of us. Others just like to bleat on about how unfair life is:p

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Yeah it really sucks!!!!!:(







But then you deal with it and move on.;):):D

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Quiet you:frown:


Yeah I know what you're getting at and if ANYONE had the right to moan and whinge you do. BUT (with the EXTREMELY RARE exception) I never hear you complain. (well not about the way life treats you). :thumbsup:

BTW any word from the butchers??

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This is just so 'whiningly British'. It should say "I'm an overprivelidged entitlement whore":

http://www.pension-parity-uk.com/PAR...full;init:.JPG

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:p:rofl:

Not a dickie bird.:confused:

Not even from the pokers and prodders.:(

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[QUOTE=Jingsamichty;6676696][QUOTE=BWelford;6676568]Meanwhile 10 Downing Street is now Twittering, another attention-getting activity to take them away from the real priorities.Ok he may be going on a bit and I'm also not totally convinced that we deserve it once we leave the sinking ship. ;) BUT you can't deny his point, WTF do non commonwealth countries get treated differently. Our friends who moved to the states over 30years ago, were tracked down by the pensions agency and offered the full pension despite no contributions since and certainly no need of it. So might I humbly suggest that you stick to constructive comment on a subject that may be relevant to quite a few people on here. We may not all be rich and young and hansom. I'm only two of those myself:o.

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You can suggest anything you like. Just like I can.

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Glad we understand each other :sneaky: