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Old Aug 10th 2006 | 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by Rich_007
No, but jellies are, old folks sell them (amongst other things) to afford tins of baked beans and warm slippers.

Plagues and general types of social nastiness are interchangeable. Who'd have thought rural Canada would be plagued by a vile infestation of fake Burberry sunglasses cases ?

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Thanks Rich, needed a laugh and a focus away from the crap
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Originally Posted by Rich_007
No, but jellies are, old folks sell them (amongst other things) to afford tins of baked beans and warm slippers.

Plagues and general types of social nastiness are interchangeable. Who'd have thought rural Canada would be plagued by a vile infestation of fake Burberry sunglasses cases ?

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Sorry to be so ridiculously naive Rich and you may laugh your head off; when you say Jellies, is that another name for a drug thing I don't know about, or Jelly as we knew it from Gran' with custard...Is the message regarding slippers & baked beans referring to impoverishment as opposed to no one having to go hungry in UK?..
 
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Originally Posted by JoanMC
Sorry to be so ridiculously naive Rich and you may laugh your head off; when you say Jellies, is that another name for a drug thing I don't know about, or Jelly as we knew it from Gran' with custard...Is the message regarding slippers & baked beans referring to impoverishment as opposed to no one having to go hungry in UK?..
Can be looked at either way. Jellies are cheap rubber sandals as well as a Scottish slang term for Temazepam, a much abused prescription drug.
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Originally Posted by Stuarty
Can be looked at either way. Jellies are cheap rubber sandals as well as a Scottish slang term for Temazepam, a much abused prescription drug.
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Just read your post
Hope your son is OK

Me the hairy arsed warder knows how exactly how you feel mate
My eldest daughter was assaulted in school last year, not to the same extent as your boy, by wee phuckwit chav girls who were jealous of her as she came top of her year again.

I went phuckin radio rental at the school, tried to get the boys in blue involved, they were not interested and said the school were dealing with it internally

They told me they had a policy of inclusion, in other words the little cows were not going to be expelled. They hit me with the cognitive skills approach with dealing with violence and bullying.
When I said I was a prison officer and deal with cognitive skills most days in the jail they turned a funny colour of white, shit themselves.
Cognitive skills was pioneered by the Canadian Prison Service years ago.
They ditched it because they proved over a very long period of time it did not work.
What do we do, we bring it into our jails and what happens, it still doesn't work, so what chance do they think it will work on school children who's fathers it was probably tried on !!!!!!
After explaining what I was going to do if this wasn't resolved to my satisfaction and my daughters satisfaction, they duly backed down and expelled the scumbags for one month, whoopeedooo I said !!

Anyway it was like talking to a brick wall with them, really pissed me off about the polis and their attitude. !!!!!!!!

Anyway mate hope he is OK and on the mend
It took our daughter months to get her confidence and her bottle back to feel OK about her school

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Old Aug 10th 2006 | 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33
Rural areas of the North American west have problems that I don't think Scotland does. Is crystal meth an issue in Scotland?
All drugs are a major problem here db
Crack cocaine is a major one here and its just hitting the jails now, so smack, (heroin), cannabis, jellies, DF118's, etc are all still being taken regular and we now have crack cocaine to deal with.

Did you know that cons now favour smoking heroin, or as they call it chasing the dragon rather than taking cannabis.
We did have a policy of random drug testing and heroin cannot be traced in your body after 3 days.
Cannabis can be traced in your body for up to 30 days, so you can still be caught smoking canabis for up to 30 days after you took it.
Heroin is in and out of your system after just 3 days !!!
This policy was ditched last year as our politically correct leaders deemed it was to expensive maintain, so cons are now having the time of their lifes.

Scotland, or shall I say Glasgow is now the murder capital of the western world, not western Europe but the whole world, way above New York, LA, Toronto, to name a but a few.

Violent crime headlines most daily papers here and on the TV news in Glasgow, you very rarely hear of nice news, all doom and gloom here and its going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

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Sorry to hear about your lad! Things are better here. My daughter last year had a couple of kids to sleep over - 10/11 year olds. I thought it was all going to be make up and boys and loud music! To my daughters horror and my amazement out came the Barbie dolls. Kids still get to be kids (or they certainley do here in Red Deer)
 
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Originally Posted by Voyager970
Stuart

Just read your post
Hope your son is OK

Me the hairy arsed warder knows how exactly how you feel mate
My eldest daughter was assaulted in school last year, not to the same extent as your boy, by wee phuckwit chav girls who were jealous of her as she came top of her year again.

I went phuckin radio rental at the school, tried to get the boys in blue involved, they were not interested and said the school were dealing with it internally

They told me they had a policy of inclusion, in other words the little cows were not going to be expelled. They hit me with the cognitive skills approach with dealing with violence and bullying.
When I said I was a prison officer and deal with cognitive skills most days in the jail they turned a funny colour of white, shit themselves.
Cognitive skills was pioneered by the Canadian Prison Service years ago.
They ditched it because they proved over a very long period of time it did not work.
What do we do, we bring it into our jails and what happens, it still doesn't work, so what chance do they think it will work on school children who's fathers it was probably tried on !!!!!!
After explaining what I was going to do if this wasn't resolved to my satisfaction and my daughters satisfaction, they duly backed down and expelled the scumbags for one month, whoopeedooo I said !!

Anyway it was like talking to a brick wall with them, really pissed me off about the polis and their attitude. !!!!!!!!

Anyway mate hope he is OK and on the mend
It took our daughter months to get her confidence and her bottle back to feel OK about her school

Eddie
Thanks for that Eddie. I am afraid that the Portfolio Builders have taken over (Police, NHS, Prisons, Fire etc). They spot a cunning plan adopted somewhere else, plagiarise it, implement it as a new way forward, put its invention and implementation into their portfolio and get promotion some time later for inventing the wheel. Only when society can see through these sound bite boys will things improve, but it won't happen anytime soon.
Our kids will have the last laugh because scum will always be scum.
Get it right up em!!
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Old Aug 10th 2006 | 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Piff Poff
Sorry to hear about your lad! Things are better here. My daughter last year had a couple of kids to sleep over - 10/11 year olds. I thought it was all going to be make up and boys and loud music! To my daughters horror and my amazement out came the Barbie dolls. Kids still get to be kids (or they certainley do here in Red Deer)
Now this is what I want to hear. I get the same feedback from our friends in Westlock, great isn't it
Rural Alberta here we come so some on CIC work permits soon please..
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Old Aug 10th 2006 | 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Voyager970

Scotland, or shall I say Glasgow is now the murder capital of the western world, not western Europe but the whole world, way above New York, LA, Toronto, to name a but a few.

OMG, is that true, Voyager? I new Glasgow was bad but thought it was improving. So sorry about your daughter too.
 
Old Aug 10th 2006 | 9:36 pm
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OMG, is that true, Voyager? I new Glasgow was bad but thought it was improving. So sorry about your daughter too.
These stats were published last year, yip they are true facts sinope

Dont get me wrong Glasgow is still a great city, but it still has a major crime and drug problem.

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Originally Posted by Voyager970
All drugs are a major problem here db
Crack cocaine is a major one here and its just hitting the jails now, so smack, (heroin), cannabis, jellies, DF118's, etc are all still being taken regular and we now have crack cocaine to deal with.

Did you know that cons now favour smoking heroin, or as they call it chasing the dragon rather than taking cannabis.
We did have a policy of random drug testing and heroin cannot be traced in your body after 3 days.
Cannabis can be traced in your body for up to 30 days, so you can still be caught smoking canabis for up to 30 days after you took it.
Heroin is in and out of your system after just 3 days !!!
This policy was ditched last year as our politically correct leaders deemed it was to expensive maintain, so cons are now having the time of their lifes.

Scotland, or shall I say Glasgow is now the murder capital of the western world, not western Europe but the whole world, way above New York, LA, Toronto, to name a but a few.

Violent crime headlines most daily papers here and on the TV news in Glasgow, you very rarely hear of nice news, all doom and gloom here and its going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Eddie
Eddie

Having living in both the Uk and Canada. I was surprised that taking drugs was not seen an issue in Canada by many. Smoking cannabis etc seemed not to be a problem, as it was seen as a normally accepted social behaviour, not just with teenager but even people I spoke too in their 50's.

I can remember going into bars in the rural town I lived in Ontario and I noticed guys were openly selling drugs.

A friend of mine(a Scot) was threatened when he caught a couple of guys growing stuff on his land.

I would agree I would not live in Glasgow and on the other hand I would not live in the rough parts of Edmonton where all the Hells Angles run their drug empire.

Have a look at this link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4620272.stm
 
Old Aug 10th 2006 | 10:20 pm
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Originally Posted by hudd
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Having living in both the Uk and Canada. I was surprised that taking drugs was not seen an issue in Canada by many. Smoking cannabis etc seemed not to be a problem, as it was seen as a normally accepted social behaviour, not just with teenager but even people I spoke too in their 50's.

I can remember going into bars in the rural town I lived in Ontario and I noticed guys were openly selling drugs.

A friend of mine(a Scot) was threatened when he caught a couple of guys growing stuff on his land.

I would agree I would not live in Glasgow and on the other hand I would not live in the rough parts of Edmonton where all the Hells Angles run their drug empire.

Have a look at this link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4620272.stm
Hud intersting reading

Scotland de-criminalised cannabis a few years ago, reducing it from a class A drug, you can still be arrested for having it in your posession, but the onus is on the police to prove it is not for personal consumption, if you can prove its for yourself then they tend to let you off with a warning, YEEHAAA says the bam that has it in his posession.

Things are that bad here, my nephew has just finished school, when he started in the school there was always hard drugs that could be bought in the school playground, not outside, away from teachers but actually in the school playground during the childrens breaks
And they wonder why Glasgow has a drug problem when kids as young as 13 have access to drugs like heroin and cannabis in the school.

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Eddie

Having living in both the Uk and Canada. I was surprised that taking drugs was not seen an issue in Canada by many. Smoking cannabis etc seemed not to be a problem, as it was seen as a normally accepted social behaviour, not just with teenager but even people I spoke too in their 50's.

I can remember going into bars in the rural town I lived in Ontario and I noticed guys were openly selling drugs.

A friend of mine(a Scot) was threatened when he caught a couple of guys growing stuff on his land.

I would agree I would not live in Glasgow and on the other hand I would not live in the rough parts of Edmonton where all the Hells Angles run their drug empire.

Have a look at this link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4620272.stm
I also think that part of the problem over here is the strength of cannabis now. Homegrown in your back garden or spare room weed is just a mild buzz but some of the resins and skunk are really strong to the extent of being hallucinogenic. It is also the way people take it now - mixing it with other drugs like alcohol, cocaine etc. In my day a spliff was fine but class A's were a real no no. Now there is no taboo to taking cocaine (caused in no small measure by coke being the celebs drug of choice) and it isn't that expensive either. Voyager will know far more about this than me but I think that you can get an injection (whatever the terminology is) of heroin for less than a four-pack which is scary. I think that crack is really cheap too. It is a scary situation and a country-wide problem that is no longer confined to the cities.
 
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Hud intersting reading

Scotland de-criminalised cannabis a few years ago, reducing it from a class A drug, you can still be arrested for having it in your posession, but the onus is on the police to prove it is not for personal consumption, if you can prove its for yourself then they tend to let you off with a warning, YEEHAAA says the bam that has it in his posession.

Things are that bad here, my nephew has just finished school, when he started in the school there was always hard drugs that could be bought in the school playground, not outside, away from teachers but actually in the school playground during the childrens breaks
And they wonder why Glasgow has a drug problem when kids as young as 13 have access to drugs like heroin and cannabis in the school.

Eddie
Eddie

We are lucky not to experience that type of schooling for myself and our kids. We always live in villages/ small towns in England or small town Canada.

The issue such as drugs you are experiencing in a large city is the reason why I happy to live again in rural area in England. Still problems I assume with drugs like anywhere in the world, but not to the extend you have seen.

I know where were lived in Ontario, drugs/alcohol were a problem especially for the kids from better off families. Taking cannabis etc seemed normal to most people and talking to people at work I found I had different views to drug taking.

We liked our time in Canada in general, but unfortunately you still get the same social problems as you do in the UK. The only benefit is that you can live a long away from the bad areas(as long as you do not mind driving alot).
 
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Originally Posted by sinope
Voyager will know far more about this than me but I think that you can get an injection (whatever the terminology is) of heroin for less than a four-pack which is scary. I think that crack is really cheap too. It is a scary situation and a country-wide problem that is no longer confined to the cities.
Here in Glasgow you can buy, what we call a tenner bag of smack ( heroin )
A tenner being £10 UK pounds, or about $20 CAD
This is a very small wrap of heroin, the heroin being mixed in with all sorts of shit to water the powder down. So not only are you injecting heroin into your veins, but also talcum powder, daz washing powder, flour, fertilizer, infact anything that will thin the heroin.

Stuart you will know what I mean, being an ex bobbie !!!

This gets them enough for about 2 hits, on most occasions one will do depending on how their tolerence is for the drug, to jag up with ( inject ) !!!
I know prisoners who had habits that were costing them £500 per day.
They beg, borrow, mostly steal to fund their habit which leads them into jail.
Drugs the scurge of society !!!!!

Eddie
 


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