Hi

I've been looking into migrating to Canada and am looking for some help and advice. I'm only at the very beginning of my research so please stick with me if I ask silly questions

What are the job oppertunites like in Canada? From all the publicity I am led to believe that there are plenty of jobs etc but from other forums I've read this is not true and it is incredibly hard to find employment.

I would be looking for admin work in finance and/or transport/logistic planning, my friend works in IT and her husband is in the fire service. What do you think the chances of coming by suitable jobs are

What is the annual leave in Canada? From what I've read you are only entitled to 10days after you have worked for a year That's not enough to get home etc and I was just wondering if that was true? Also what is the average working week?

Slighty off topic but if we do go we will be taking 3 horses across. I was just wondering if anyone else had taken their horses with them and if they had any information on livery, costs and differences from the UK?

Thank you in advance for your help

Hi Kismet and welcome to the forum.

Sorry I can't help you on the employment question, but reference holiday entiltlement - 10 days is the norm and the working week depends on your job.

Hope this helps

Hi,

Cant help too much as I'm not over there yet....

But re the horses , a few users on here have horses so may be able to help.

"dbd33" and "R I C H" spring to mind, try either searching for their posts or drop them a PM and ask for info ....

Hope that helps

Good Luck

Adbru

Getting the job from here before you leave is pretty hard yes. Even more so if you don't know when you're actually landing. I suppoer it depends on which province you want.
Yes 10 days hols but this does increase with length of service and a normal working week is about 40 hours.
From all the aggro about farms and such I would guess there would be no chance of taking the horses. If you do manage it I expect the costs to be extremely high.
But what do I know?

We do have a couple of horses (see blog) but the poster you really want is Tiaribbon. She brought hers from the UK. iirc correctly they're flown in some sort of frame thing and three is the ideal number, otherwise you either have to pay for an empty slot or wait for another horse. It seems to me that it's important to send the horses via the US, something about health regulations, no doubt.

Livery costs vary widely according to proximity to cities so it depends where you're moving. Horse boards are:

www.equiman.com

www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/

the latter is US based but has lots of Canadian posters and is very informative. I very much regret having been banned from it.

The Canadian Food Inspection Agency is probably the outfit to look at for horse-related regulations.

Actually that probably does play into the matter of bringing horses via the US. I expect horses can pass from the US into Canada without health inspection because they're assumed to be going to slaughter.

I think it's a foot & mouth thing. Horses coming from the US are considered to be "clean" while those from the UK are not. Whether or not it's easier to get Brit horses into the US than into Canada I do not know.

Your earlier reference to "On the Buses" made me giggle, so thank you for starting my day off well.

Thank you for all your replies

How do you manage with just ten days holiday in a year?? Is it just me that things it's quite low?

What is the "aggro with farms"? Like I said I'm new to this so not looked into everything yet.

Should I ask why you were banned from the forum??

I have no idea what area I would be looking to land in, I was thinking more the west coast What sort of areas have jobs and suitable climates for the horses?

I've looking into the costs of importing horses from USA previously so think it will be around the same going from UK-USA but I wasn't sure where they went from there or if they could go direct to Canada.

Thanks for your help, keep it coming

Glad to be of aid.

People bring horses to Canada from Europe every day and they send them the other way; to shows, to race and to perform acts of a copulatory nature. Nothing unusual in that and I'm sure it can be done with a direct flight. I do recall that there was merit in going via the US but I don't remember if it was due to cost or convenience. There are firms that specialize in moving horses about so it shouldn't be hard to get a quote for various routes.

It was due to my contribution to a thread concerning discouraging one's illegal immigrant hispanic barn help from defecating in the stalls; it seems that they really don't do irony in America.

Basically they're pretty keen on if you've visited a farm recently or are going to whilst visiting Canada. All because of the foot n mouth we had years ago. Britain is now seen as bad news.

What?

Quite. When my brother last came to visit he was asked by the immigration guy what he did for a living. He was quick enough to change his answer in mid-word. Not a good idea to fess-up to being a dairy farmer.

If you mean a suitable climate for the horses to live healthily 'most anywhere in Canada will do. The rule of thumb here is that they can stay out (with blankets) down to -15C unless there's freezing rain and, even then, lots of horses do with a run in shed rather than being stalled.

If you want a climate for riding, well, that's another thing, the horse may be ok with extreme cold but the rider likely won't be. Year round riding requires access to an indoor arena and the provision of a such a facility is a big factor in boarding costs. It's not only winter that presents problems. In Ontario in summer it's often too hot to work a horse in the middle of the day and in the mud seasons footing may be problematic.

That said, the horse industry around the GTA is huge. Apart from leisure pursuits involving horses (showing, various types of racing, foxhunting) there are very many people who use horses in place of machines; Mennonites are the best known but there other, weirder, horse drawn sects. I've only had an interest in things equine for three years or so and it's been quite the surprise to see just what a big business it is.

As for horses - most transporters will time the bookings so that they fill a three stall container if needed. It really is up to them to get as many bookings as possible and not up to the horse owner.

A loooooong time ago before exporting and importing horses over seas started to be something the normal (but affluent) rider would you paid per container. A friend of mine went over and bought an appalosa. To ship it home he found out that it would cost the same to ship one or two horses (two stalls per container back then) so he bought another appalosa, shipped both back to europe, sold one which paid for the shipping cost and then some.

Now you pay per stall.

I have shopped around for quotes. No-one has told me that should they not be able to fill the entire container I have to pay 3 times more.


Tiaribbon used Peden Bloodstock (german company now with office in UK as well)

You also have airhorses in Denmark.

KLM do a lot of flying horses but prefer you use a shipping agent.

You can do it alone but get one piece of paper wrong could be false economy. Worse than applying for PPR without an immigration lawyer.

Good luck