Living in NL, working back in UK
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Living in NL, working back in UK
Hello.
I am a Brit, with a British passport, living in the Netherlands looking at working in the UK. I had my my uk bank account closed just before Brexit.
Most of the jobs in looking at say Remote working in UK ONLY.
Obviously I can remote work from anywhere.
I no longer have a UK bank account, so my question is, how do
I get paid using Bacs? I would need a sort code I would think, and I can't get one of those because I live in EU.
Any help would be great.
Happy new year
M
I am a Brit, with a British passport, living in the Netherlands looking at working in the UK. I had my my uk bank account closed just before Brexit.
Most of the jobs in looking at say Remote working in UK ONLY.
Obviously I can remote work from anywhere.
I no longer have a UK bank account, so my question is, how do
I get paid using Bacs? I would need a sort code I would think, and I can't get one of those because I live in EU.
Any help would be great.
Happy new year
M
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Re: Living in NL, working back in UK
To get paid internationally, you need an IBAN and BICS/Swift code and your Dutch, British or any other bank account will have this: if you have online banking you will find it there although it's usually on your debit card here (NLXX {4 letters identifying bank name] followed by numbers.
Your issue is that it's incredibly difficult to work for a UK company because of the tax implications - the UK company would have to deal with the Belastingdienst and almost no employer wants to fall foul of them due to ignorance of Dutch taxes - it's far far easier for them to hire someone who is already tax resident in the UK (and dealing with HMRC), which you probably aren't if you live in NL. Unless you already have a UK Ltd company (and had it for at least 12 months before moving to NL)? in which case you would need a good international accountant.
All your British passport is good for is if you intend to move back there.
Your issue is that it's incredibly difficult to work for a UK company because of the tax implications - the UK company would have to deal with the Belastingdienst and almost no employer wants to fall foul of them due to ignorance of Dutch taxes - it's far far easier for them to hire someone who is already tax resident in the UK (and dealing with HMRC), which you probably aren't if you live in NL. Unless you already have a UK Ltd company (and had it for at least 12 months before moving to NL)? in which case you would need a good international accountant.
All your British passport is good for is if you intend to move back there.
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Re: Living in NL, working back in UK
Is there a typo or missing word(s)?
Those two statements appear to be contradictory, unless you're talking about the minority of jobs that do not say "remote working in the UK only".
The problem you may face, that has been discussed many times in the US, Canada, and Spain forums, and occasionally in other forums, regarding working in one country and living, working and/or being paid in another country. The primary problem is that being on the payroll (in the UK) necessarily means that British income tax and NI will be deducted by default, and that you will have to make your own arrangements to pay income tax and social charges in your country of work/ residence.
There are ways to solve the problems of income tax and NI/ social charges, most of which are expensive and time consuming involving reclaiming and paying your own taxes, but by far the easiest is to work as a contractor, billing your time to your "employer", rather than being an employee on the payroll. Then you'd be paid gross and (just) pay income tax and social charges where you are living and working. Obviously being paid as a contractor requires the willingness of your "employer" to agree to such an arrangement, and not all will agree.
Last edited by Pulaski; Dec 31st 2023 at 8:14 pm.
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Re: Living in NL, working back in UK
If you are residing in NL and want to work for a company or companies outside NL, it's easiest to do as a self employed person or freelancer.
I would not advise just working for one client outside NL as a regular employee, it gets too messy.
You will be taxed in NL of course on your income and depending on your annual turnover you will also have to apply for a VAT number if required.
I don't know what field you are in and whether it is IT or ADMIN for example or something else. The more information you can provide, the more useful tips you will receive here.
One thing is for sure, Internet actually works properly in NL and is technically in good shape. It is great for remote working, but have you done this kind of work before?
Fibre connections are available just about everywhere now.
I would not advise just working for one client outside NL as a regular employee, it gets too messy.
You will be taxed in NL of course on your income and depending on your annual turnover you will also have to apply for a VAT number if required.
I don't know what field you are in and whether it is IT or ADMIN for example or something else. The more information you can provide, the more useful tips you will receive here.
One thing is for sure, Internet actually works properly in NL and is technically in good shape. It is great for remote working, but have you done this kind of work before?
Fibre connections are available just about everywhere now.
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Re: Living in NL, working back in UK
We're on the same page there!
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Re: Living in NL, working back in UK
If you are residing in NL and want to work for a company or companies outside NL, it's easiest to do as a self employed person or freelancer.
I would not advise just working for one client outside NL as a regular employee, it gets too messy.
You will be taxed in NL of course on your income and depending on your annual turnover you will also have to apply for a VAT number if required.
I don't know what field you are in and whether it is IT or ADMIN for example or something else. The more information you can provide, the more useful tips you will receive here.
One thing is for sure, Internet actually works properly in NL and is technically in good shape. It is great for remote working, but have you done this kind of work before?
Fibre connections are available just about everywhere now.
I would not advise just working for one client outside NL as a regular employee, it gets too messy.
You will be taxed in NL of course on your income and depending on your annual turnover you will also have to apply for a VAT number if required.
I don't know what field you are in and whether it is IT or ADMIN for example or something else. The more information you can provide, the more useful tips you will receive here.
One thing is for sure, Internet actually works properly in NL and is technically in good shape. It is great for remote working, but have you done this kind of work before?
Fibre connections are available just about everywhere now.
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Re: Living in NL, working back in UK
Thanks for your contribution, gratefully received
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Re: Living in NL, working back in UK
Now that you have done that it's important to mention that NL has strict very laws regarding being self employed (zelfstandig/ ZZP'er/ Eenmanszaak).
This is mainly because some business exploited this in order to avoid paying social tariffs as employer in the past.
You will need to have several other clients in order to demonstrate that you are not employed solely by one client.
This will of course depend on your field of work and experience but the more the merrier in this case.
There is no reason why you can't work in several fields of business, as long as you make sure these are reflected on your registration with the KvK (Chamber of Commerce).
There is also a trick you can use by also calling yourself a "Groothandel" which is a general business term and will cover just about anything from car parts to window cleaning.
KvK can offer limited advice on those things.
If you want help with remote working strategy or problems etc. you can always post in "The Lab" section of the forum.
This is mainly because some business exploited this in order to avoid paying social tariffs as employer in the past.
You will need to have several other clients in order to demonstrate that you are not employed solely by one client.
This will of course depend on your field of work and experience but the more the merrier in this case.
There is no reason why you can't work in several fields of business, as long as you make sure these are reflected on your registration with the KvK (Chamber of Commerce).
There is also a trick you can use by also calling yourself a "Groothandel" which is a general business term and will cover just about anything from car parts to window cleaning.
KvK can offer limited advice on those things.
If you want help with remote working strategy or problems etc. you can always post in "The Lab" section of the forum.
Last edited by calman014; Jan 15th 2024 at 8:48 am.