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Originally Posted by WendyC
some of the asians are racist too.
I see it from the perspective of going into schools - both purely 'white' private schools and purely Muslim schools, and just about every type in between. I talk to kids and teachers and go out into the community and talk to various groups there too. I have never come across xenophobic attitudes. I don't doubt they exist in the older generations, but then that's the case everywhere. For the most part, the younger generations I deal with are impressively tolerant. I really don't think you could say that the majority of people in Bradford, or Yorkshire, or the UK for that matter are racist. There is a noisy, destructive element, but I don't see it as the norm. |
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*wakes up, climbs off floor, wipes dribble off face, attempts to chat up pretty barmaid but the words come out as "rraaaraaaaraarraaaawwuuuurrgghhh", goes back to sleep on bar*
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Re: You will ot believe this...
Originally Posted by Breezey
OK, I agree many Europeans are not racist and the elites that seem to run the show don't seem to be-but this underbelly of lower middle class racism exists-real deep racism-and I think this is where we are misunderstanding each other.
You assume this kind of racism exists in lower-middle class Aussies-it actually doesnt-most lower middle class Aussies are far simpler-not quite cultured enough to even think in ethnic terms. I couple of colorful comments dont change this. Hence the Australian powers that be dont "oppose" racism much because it really isnt athreat(cronulla withstanding. In europe there is a constant undercurrent of battle between liberal forces and a mass undercurrent of working class resentment and racism-hence these societies enforce political correctness more rigidly and adopt more overt anti-racist positions. |
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Anyway, it's time for me to go home now, back on my melting pot of a train to my home in the racist hinterlands :D
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Re: You will not believe this...
Originally Posted by bundy
It must be a lovely place in cloud cuckoo land.
Leeds is trendy, modern and cosmopolitan, and after London and Manchester, one of the most trendy, modern and cosmopolitan places in the country! I have encountered no such xenophobia or imbedded hate - and I work in widening participation, that is, outreach work which promotes equality and diversity in some of the least diverse parts of the country. And it is utter b*llocks to say that xenophobia and embedded hate doesn't exist in Australia!!!!! And what's more, you know it. Remember this, racism is built on resentment and ultimately unhappiness-happy people are rarely racist-and there are few happier groups than Australians-who think "they live in the best country on earth"-if you are that happy with your lot-and many Australians actually are, believe it or not, you are less inclined to hate. In fact the guy who wrote hitchhikers visited Australia and commented he had never met a happier more contented bunch. Resentment and misery are away of life for the European working class-and this makes them far more vulnerable to racism. if you really think that the average Aussie making racist jokes at the barbie would actually take his racism to a more violent level you are wrong. |
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Originally Posted by bundy
I don't see any of this in terms of class at all. I see it in terms of an insidious culture of intolerance that exists in all societies but is more prevalent in some than others. Or at least, expressed more overtly, and with greater licence in some that others.
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Ding Ding..........
Round three :D |
Re: You will not believe this...
Originally Posted by WendyC
some of the asians are racist too.
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Re: You will ot believe this...
Originally Posted by Breezey
fair enough
Blimey blinkey....is this thread still running? |
Re: You will not believe this...
Originally Posted by moneypen20
Blimey, Wendy, are you allowed to say that :rolleyes: I'm sure I've read that only white middle class people can be racist ;)
I don't care it's true. During my last week at work in the bookies, I had a comment made to me by a pakistani man, which I can't repeat here as it is a bit colourful, but the gist of it was that I was a "white whore, who should get back to the kitchen where I belong" all because I wouldn't put his bet on as the race was nearly over. That's just one example. But I have seen it quite a lot. From both sides |
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Originally Posted by WendyC
I don't care it's true.
During my last week at work in the bookies, I had a comment made to me by a pakistani man, which I can't repeat here as it is a bit colourful, but the gist of it was that I was a "white whore, who should get back to the kitchen where I belong" all because I wouldn't put his bet on as the race was nearly over. That's just one example. But I have seen it quite a lot. From both sides |
Re: You will not believe this...
Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK
You should have responded with "Well, unlike you I am not a racist bigot and I think that a 'twat' is a 'twat' the world over....TWAT!!"
One good thing about working in the bookies, is that you can tell your customers to eff off. It's very liberating :D |
Re: You will not believe this...
Originally Posted by WendyC
I did.
One good thing about working in the bookies, is that you can tell your customers to eff off. It's very liberating :D *wakes up with head the size of a beach ball and a tongue that tastes like a camels armpit* errrr are we still here then??? . |
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Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK
I've seen this reponse many times before.
Blimey blinkey....is this thread still running? |
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Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK
I've seen this reponse many times before.
Blimey blinkey....is this thread still running? |
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