Beoz

You probably shouldn't have let that question hang out there, just to prove a cause for the left.

http://m.smh.com.au/world/pope-francis-intervenes-to-remove-priest-accused-of-child-sex-abuse-after-receiving-letter-from-alleged-victim-20150316-1m0olr.html

You see, the left continually come unstuck. My idea is not that radical. Not sure why it deserves an argument. Other religions do it.

ozzieeagle

What a brilliant post

paulry

Granny, I think you'll find that things have changed since the 18th century. In a dynamic world, as new players and forces have entered and old (obsolete) ones have left, the left/right (and centre) spectrum has changed. People no longer bicker over whether or not to chop off King Louis' head. ....Ah, the simplicity of the challenges facing the world back then!

GarryP

An article on the practical issues of the bluster here. Note specifically the part about false alarm rate, it's kinda key.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/28/wo...r-answers.html

Beoz

Bloody New York Times. They missed the whole point in the second paragraph.

And then there are the dozens of other young American men and women who have been arrested over the past year for trying to help the Islamic State. Their backgrounds are so diverse that they defy a single profile.

The New York Post would have picked up that the single profile is Islam. Instead the left fanny around the point as per usual, teasing every single reason without coming to a conclusion.

Amazulu

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Details

That was then

Islam is the problem of our time but the left are in denial as it upsets their PC/anti-west apple cart - playing the man not the ball

This is why it virtually impossible for a leftie/socialist/greenie to be a patriot

paulry

Jee thanks, that's 2 minutes I'll never get back.

paulry

Yep

GarryP

Do you ever get the feeling that the point is whistling way over your head?

Because if you don't, you should do.

I'll repeat the part that I said that you seem not to be competent to be able to read

paulry

Would it be fair to say that most muslims are not terrorists, but most terrorists are muslims?

Beoz

You see, this is your problem. You believe you are BE's voice of superiority and if people contest your view, your final comback is something patronising like "you don't get it"

Have you ever thought for a second your leftist views are outdated and skirt around the real issues, without care for the other side?

The only thing you managed to sell me on is where the problem comes from. Don't think anyone will disagree.

Here's a New York Post article for you. Blunt and to the point and where it should be.

http://nypost.com/2016/03/27/brussels-is-what-happens-when-liberals-dont-push-immigrants-to-integrate/

Beoz

As long as we aren't talking history, and we are talking todays issues ..... yes

GarryP

YOU F**KING IGNORED what I said and made trite and daft statements, then whined when you get called on it?

The whole point is that there's nothing you can use to discriminate 'radicalised' individuals from nonradicalised ones - including islam. The false alarm rate means you cause more harm than good, and the fact that you are looking for simple checklists shows you don't understand the problem.

Sigh. Again with the strawmen.

Have you ever thought that you claims to 'wot left wingers think' is outdated and outright ignores the real issues, let alone the vast tracts of different ideologies that you lump under 'left wing'? FFS Pauley doesn't even realise how anarchy sits on the far left wing and is the final embodiment of marxist thought.

Maybe you ought to actually understand what you so easily rail against before doing so? Good and bad?

You KEEP saying "the problem is islam", and implying that they should be locked up/deported without ever realising that THAT IS WHAT THE TERRORISTS WANT. You literally lose if you do that. It's an idiot, Trump level 'solution', on a par with "we'll leave the fridge door open to cool down the house".

Utter drivel - written by someone who has a track record of lying his head off to push his politics.

The Amir Taheri Story | Mother Jones

paulry

It's classic leftist behaviour - when all other tactics have failed. It's already been used several times on this thread alone.

Beoz

Its not I that ignored what you said, I don't agree with what you said. Just because the BE voice of superiority said it, doesn't mean its right.

In bold wrong wrong wrong. I see you carefully chose the word "implying". Well I never said none of the above and you know it. Nice twist - a left trait when it all goes wrong.

All I have said is the religion should be taking more action and responsibility for its own failings. You don't seem to like that idea. Is that because its not yours?