The world of automation
#1471
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Re: The world of automation
Looks like the automation of jobs continue to pick up steam. 'Just walk out' stores seem to be hitting the early 'roll out' phase and given the vast number of low paid full and part time roles, it will hit the job market hard when the stores still left in the malls get rid of most of their staff (FFS how many nail bars can one mall have?)
https://medium.com/syncedreview/chec...al-d02a5af6938
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I wonder if the ladies would go if its automated without the ability to catch up on local gossip.
#1472
Re: The world of automation
Sadly a third nail bar has opened up on my high street. Us men were hoping for a wine bar. Anyhow, the local trouble and strife's are loving it. There is a bit of a price war on. They can sit there, have their nails done, have a cup of tea, and talk local gossip with the nail girl.
I wonder if the ladies would go if its automated without the ability to catch up on local gossip.
I wonder if the ladies would go if its automated without the ability to catch up on local gossip.
And thinking about it, it would be totally possible now.
Thing is, the shopping streets and malls is getting to be only a small segment of the total retail market, in general those heavily dependent on actually being there. So personal services, fashion shops, eating places - and then the supermarkets and finance. As an ecosystem, it's hollowing out. When the supermarkets decide there's more money in online and close up, they will likely take these bricks and mortar stores with them. Have you ever seen a failed retail mall? They are creepy places, one or two cheap stores, and an echo.
#1473
Re: The world of automation
Nobody has developed that machine out of 'The Fifth Element' yet ...
And thinking about it, it would be totally possible now.
Thing is, the shopping streets and malls is getting to be only a small segment of the total retail market, in general those heavily dependent on actually being there. So personal services, fashion shops, eating places - and then the supermarkets and finance. As an ecosystem, it's hollowing out. When the supermarkets decide there's more money in online and close up, they will likely take these bricks and mortar stores with them. Have you ever seen a failed retail mall? They are creepy places, one or two cheap stores, and an echo.
And thinking about it, it would be totally possible now.
Thing is, the shopping streets and malls is getting to be only a small segment of the total retail market, in general those heavily dependent on actually being there. So personal services, fashion shops, eating places - and then the supermarkets and finance. As an ecosystem, it's hollowing out. When the supermarkets decide there's more money in online and close up, they will likely take these bricks and mortar stores with them. Have you ever seen a failed retail mall? They are creepy places, one or two cheap stores, and an echo.
#1474
Re: The world of automation
The issue is probably not whether they can negotiate traffic, unexpected drivers' behaviour etc, but whether they can do all this all the time.If there are say areas that they won't work in or which have problems with, it's going to be impractical to own one and constantly have to disengage the autopilot even if you know where the problem areas are - and these are likely to change on a minute by minute basis.
Autonomous cars have to be exactly that - no ifs, no buts and no "owner override". That's a long way from happening.
Autonomous cars have to be exactly that - no ifs, no buts and no "owner override". That's a long way from happening.
#1475
Re: The world of automation
The issue is probably not whether they can negotiate traffic, unexpected drivers' behaviour etc, but whether they can do all this all the time.If there are say areas that they won't work in or which have problems with, it's going to be impractical to own one and constantly have to disengage the autopilot even if you know where the problem areas are - and these are likely to change on a minute by minute basis.
Autonomous cars have to be exactly that - no ifs, no buts and no "owner override". That's a long way from happening.
Autonomous cars have to be exactly that - no ifs, no buts and no "owner override". That's a long way from happening.
#1476
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Dec 2010
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Re: The world of automation
Nobody has developed that machine out of 'The Fifth Element' yet ...
And thinking about it, it would be totally possible now.
Thing is, the shopping streets and malls is getting to be only a small segment of the total retail market, in general those heavily dependent on actually being there. So personal services, fashion shops, eating places - and then the supermarkets and finance. As an ecosystem, it's hollowing out. When the supermarkets decide there's more money in online and close up, they will likely take these bricks and mortar stores with them. Have you ever seen a failed retail mall? They are creepy places, one or two cheap stores, and an echo.
And thinking about it, it would be totally possible now.
Thing is, the shopping streets and malls is getting to be only a small segment of the total retail market, in general those heavily dependent on actually being there. So personal services, fashion shops, eating places - and then the supermarkets and finance. As an ecosystem, it's hollowing out. When the supermarkets decide there's more money in online and close up, they will likely take these bricks and mortar stores with them. Have you ever seen a failed retail mall? They are creepy places, one or two cheap stores, and an echo.
Now you may not as a man, I refuse to visit Coles, but my wife loves it.
As you know, the shopping malls and high streets that survive offer more than retail. It's all about offering experiences.
The nail bar is a classic place. Does woman really want to stick her hand in a machine or do they want to ability to chat, have someone fussing over them, etc?
#1477
Re: The world of automation
After 2030 maybe
And depending on how much IP they can half-inch - something they've been pretty good at so far. Maybe DT's new cold-war against China will slow that down somewhat
#1478
Re: The world of automation
The point is, women especially love a bit of in store, in mall experience.
Now you may not as a man, I refuse to visit Coles, but my wife loves it.
As you know, the shopping malls and high streets that survive offer more than retail. It's all about offering experiences.
The nail bar is a classic place. Does woman really want to stick her hand in a machine or do they want to ability to chat, have someone fussing over them, etc?
Now you may not as a man, I refuse to visit Coles, but my wife loves it.
As you know, the shopping malls and high streets that survive offer more than retail. It's all about offering experiences.
The nail bar is a classic place. Does woman really want to stick her hand in a machine or do they want to ability to chat, have someone fussing over them, etc?
Just because something can be potentially automated, doesn't mean it will be - nail bars for instance
#1479
Re: The world of automation
A creepy, empty, mall, won't have the nail bars for long.
Also, you'll note, men aren't particularly well served by 'third places' - at least ones that aren't bars. Market opportunity there.
#1480
Re: The world of automation
The issue is probably not whether they can negotiate traffic, unexpected drivers' behaviour etc, but whether they can do all this all the time.If there are say areas that they won't work in or which have problems with, it's going to be impractical to own one and constantly have to disengage the autopilot even if you know where the problem areas are - and these are likely to change on a minute by minute basis.
Autonomous cars have to be exactly that - no ifs, no buts and no "owner override". That's a long way from happening.
Autonomous cars have to be exactly that - no ifs, no buts and no "owner override". That's a long way from happening.
You don't think they have thought of that?
Addison Lee AV
#1482
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Re: The world of automation
You are considering these places, like nail bars, to be 'third places' - meeting spots where the service is secondary to the social aspect (coffee shops are the same). That's fine, and there's certainly a need for them, but they aren't really tied to the service, or the location, and they aren't sufficient to keep a mall working. In short, they feed off of social spaces, they don't really create them.
A creepy, empty, mall, won't have the nail bars for long.
Also, you'll note, men aren't particularly well served by 'third places' - at least ones that aren't bars. Market opportunity there.
A creepy, empty, mall, won't have the nail bars for long.
Also, you'll note, men aren't particularly well served by 'third places' - at least ones that aren't bars. Market opportunity there.
#1484
Re: The world of automation
The creepy malls in the US weren't always creepy, they just ran out of stores and footfall and were probably too big. Foodie malls should survive, and, possibly retail fashion.
#1485
Re: The world of automation
If you believe that this technology is technically (and legally) deployable by 2021 (less than 3 years away), then party on with that assumption