Windows Vista
 

hello to all
Is it best to buy vista now wile in the uk or wait until im in oz 14/05/07
will it work ect. :rofl:

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It should work fine, however are you sure you want to buy it when it's so new? We bought a new laptop and unfortunately we had no option but Vista and so far we really don't like it. It's so unintuitive and there are still very many glitches with it, and with Office Suite 2007 that I would probably go out of my way to get a machine with XP on it if I had to do it all again.

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My mum bought a new pc and it was a sack of poo..........she sent it back to pc world and we told them we wanted a pc with XP on, they only had 2 in the whole shop with XP on !!!!

One of the blokes said he couldnt believe they sold a pc to a person who has never owned or been near a PC before.


she now has a lesser spec PC but has got the more stabler XP on it.

And tbh i wasnt that impressed with Vista really.

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Ok, here's a first for this particular thread...I actually PREFER Vista to XP...

In my opinion it looks far better and has much better security controls and useful accessories...

As for buying Vista here or in the UK, will probably be cheaper to buy here in Australia...Are you buying just the Vista software to upgrade a current PC, or buying a new PC with Vista pre-installed? If you are buying a whole new PC with Vista, then it will ALMOST DEFINITELY be cheaper in Australia...

Hope that helps!

Jamie

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Hi there im upgrading my lap top from xp :thumbsup:

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I have been working with Vista since Beta 2. Feb Last year.

I would reccomend you don't go near it for another 12 months yet!

It's not that it's a pile of crap. It's more of the fact that XP is so good.

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Sorry forgot to mention, the longer you leave it the more you will save.

Don't buy it untill you really have to.

EG: DirectX10

:eek:

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Thanks for the great replies good stuff
Good luck to all. :thumbsup:

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Nice one i'm glad someone asked this.

Not been able to get my brother on email lately to ask him, assuming he's tried Vista out but he has always told me to avoid PC world like the plague, i didn't listen bought this pc and regretted it ever since - the biggest piece of poop i've ever owned in all my life. It crashes frequently we've got Norton and firewalls on it and it runs regular virus checks. It just hates being online which is mainly what I use it for, you work offline on a letter etc and itworks fine no probs.

But then I suppose you get people who'll get on fine with pc's from Pc World.

I'll lay low on the Vista thing then sounds like teething troubles similar with kids will avoid for a bit longer and see what bro says about it all in another few months then I may treat myself to a little laptop.

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I feel obliged to put in a word for the opposition:

Apple Mac OS X

No viruses either :)

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I have vista on my PC, and personally I think its great. I have XP on my laptop, and think thats great as well.

Vista has a lot of eye candy which makes it look good plus added extra's, but it also has the same problems as XP when it first came out, a lot of drivers dont work properly, a lot of programs do not support vista etc etc.

I bought it because I wanted the latest, but, If you have just got used to using XP, and you like it, dont change IMO.

Not because vista is bad, but as previously mentioned XP is good.

Dont fix it if it aint broke !!

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there is always one :sneaky:




:D

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Someone must have been reading my mind!!

We have been out today 'window shopping' for a new laptop and looking at the vista/XP problem, I even went on here when we got back searching for anyone who had posted about this.

Thanks guys, very informative. :thumbsup:

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Make that two of us. I gave up on PC's some time ago. For stability, a pleasure to actually use and simply the fact I dont have to use Norton, firewalls, virus checkers, defragmenters etc - Macs are awesome.

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not much use if you don't have a mac though.

Anyway, Vista, it ain't to bad, but it's not great, it'e new....wait till a service pack comes out, same with XP in that regard.

and most of the eye candy is just that and gets annoying, the features aren't that earth shattering....though being able to use thumb drives as memory is a nice touch.

Plenty of software and hardware drivers have issues with Vista, so check to see if what you use will run on it, or can be upgraded...that and it's a memory hog, and the only real advantage is Directx 10, but nothing really use's that and won't really for another couple of years, plus it's a locked system, more games moving over to opengl, much nicer to program for apparently.

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you should still use the disk utilities on a mac like the defrag jobby, and a firewall...virus protection is less of an issue though...and on the flip side, bloomin' expensive getting new software for everything if you switch platform, and for some, there's isn't a choice as mac just doesn't do the stuff people need...average home user would probably be all set though.

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I agree ;) :thumbsup:

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And - does Vista run 16 bit programs?

My spreadsheet/word processor is Fireworkz for Windows and all my files are in the .fwk format. I'd hate to have them inaccessible!

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WOL doesn't want to end up FWKED :D

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You agree with what?:confused: The OP is asking about upgrading their XP PC laptop to Vista. So you think they would be better off dumping the laptop and buying a whole new Mac:rolleyes: just to do the usual web browsing, documents and spreadsheets. You honestly think in the process of emigrating to Australia it is a good use of a couple of thousand quid to buy a mac?

Really?

Get a grip, the straight forward answer is, if XP is doing you fine stick with it, nothing in Vista is worth the price.

And for the mac zealots, nothing in OSX is that great either if all you do is the day to day stuff of writing docs writing emails, surfing the web and viewing porn doing spreadsheets

JTL

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No, just dont buy it. There is really no advantage to owning Vista and it screws with your digital media.:mad: :thumbdown: :curse:

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Hold on tight JTL:

New MAC for 399 quid, feel the 1500 quid extra in your pocket ;)

"BYODKM

Mac mini makes it easy to upgrade from an older system or set it up side-by-side with another computer. Just BYODKM — bring your own display, keyboard, and mouse."

I'm not a zealot and not interested in a flame war. But, if you buy a car, you don't just look for a Ford coz they shout the loudest....(i appreciate that the car analogy is a dodgy one in the world of computing however!).

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If thats all you want to do you'd be best off saving your cash and running something like Ubuntu Linux. Has the stability and security of OSX and the ability of Windows to run on any PC.And its free:)

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Now you're talking. I use Debian, with VMWare for any windoze packages I need to run, like FrameMaker. It's great. Completely stable, unbelievably reliable, virus free and also completely free, with oodles of online support from the people who wrote it.

Open source really is the way forward.

S

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Since some posters were on about shopping for a new PC its only reasonable that some of us "mac zealots" point out the superior system designs and operating system is all. Nobody suggested the OP rush out and sell thier PC that they were wanting to clearly upgrade in favour of a mac.

I'm not on some icrusade about it. A horse and cart will get you from A to B so why bother forking out to buy a new car eh ? :p

As to whether or not someone considers if that is value for money, that would be down to the person involved.

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I have Suse as a dual boot on this machine. Its ok, took a bit of tinkering to get everything set up, but no biggie.

However, I work with non-techies in my job, I wouldn't dream of suggesting any flavour of Linux to them. I don't know if the OP is a non-techie or not, but to save a lot of hassle, I'd always suggest XP... It has all the drivers end of story unless you know every printer modem wifi and graphics card they are using.

JTL

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I've nothing against Macs, they are nice, and OSX is a nice operating system. Your answer was kind of irrelevant to the question.

If I asked which was the best cart for the new horse I'd bought, I wouldn't really want the reply "buy a car".:blink:

JTL

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maybe you should have read what i was replying to... i included the post

yes i have a mac, yes i prefer it to a windows machine, it is stacks better and more stable than a windows machine, so what do i need to get a grip of ??,

if i wish to spend my money or more money on a machine that suits me what the *&^& has it got to do with anyone else ??

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Clear that Norton rubbish off the machine completely and use AVG and you'll have a much better running machine.

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Jeez whoops :rolleyes: There was me thinking you were trying to help the OP rather than just push Apple Inc :p

How about next time if someone asks if a Ford is better than a Holden, you don't post that you have a BMW and they're the best, and they must sell their current car and buy one :lol:

You do have a BMW dont you?

JTL

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again, you have missed the point, whats a $100k car got to do with a $2k computer ??

i was originally replying to the post about mac osx, not windows vista, I thought this was an open forum..?

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Uh oh, my pedantic side has emerged.

They were, by illustrating that Vista is not the only option.

If the question was "Is Vista better than OS X" then that would be a fair point. But it wasn't.

I have OS X and a 1996 Nissan Micra, BTW :P

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You agreed with someone who recommended OSX as the alternative. Not very eloquently you said , "I agree" which means you agree the user should consider OSX as an alternative to upgrading from XP to Vista.

I refer you to my original reply as to why that is nonsense, and for you to "agree" to it is equally stupid.

As for mac zealots, you are all shooting yourselves in the foot. As I've said before, I like Macs, but, they are not worth the money.

Anyway, this is turning into a sad geeky debate about Mac v PC which I never get involved in, so EOM

JTL

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yawn yawn . . .

thanks for your valued opinion.....

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not much use if you want a laptop, or already have a half decent one though.

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OOoh dear god, really ought to buy a pair of boxing gloves lol

Right don't really want to high jack the thread but would really like some advice???

This pc is really poop might have said before its never a problem for offline stuff but get online and you wait ages sometimes for it to bring up a page and normally in those circumstances it will then crash.
For example today we want to be able to do our Tesco shopping online as we really don't have the time to trail round the supermarket each week and I think when we go in we end up getting things we don't necessarily need then him indoors says 'look how much the bl**dy shopping is' when I start work soon we'll have even less time.
Got as far as clicking for tesco express and then thats it it sits there littlesquares whirring round til it crashes. It does this on some othersites too.
An is particularly annoying if it does it when i'm trying to sort my bank stuff out online.

So if for example I was to get a laptop would this work ok when we eventually get over to Oz, just wondering as someone was saying different countries go by different voltages?
Or is it same in Australia? Can you just switch plugs or use an adapter?
I have to admit I prefer to do alot of my shopping online and using this thing is a pain in the backside when it comes to doing that, it's so slow i've lost out on ebay cause the naffing thing has taken an eternity to change page or register my bid.
If it's not going to work in Oz i'll have to struggle on with this piece of crap cause i don't want to buy something i'll only be usingfor a few months.

It doesn't have to do my washing up or anything, I often need to multitask though so a system that could cope with that would be great, it'd be good to have some decent media capabilities as I love having my media player on if I get desperate I watch a dvd up here away from the kids. Often burn cd's etc.

Anyone who knows anything about computers???
I don't really know too much excepti'd like the computerto work.

Jen

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You want to ask in the lab probably...for puter issues and all that..

but it's probably spyware and the like that's slowing you down, and a full cache, but there's plenty of threads already on how to tidy that up and see if that improves things.

anyway, your lappy would work over there, but need a new power cord for the adaptor, or a plug adaptor...your problem would probably come with the warranty though, moving abroad and all that, Dell might still cover it, but many wouldn't without extra cash, so probably wouldn't be any point in buying one till you moved, less to lug about as well.

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Thanks Bob... :thumbup:
Will have a look

Jen

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If bringing over a laptop then simply cut the UK plug off and put an Australian plug on it instead. Saves buying a new cable.

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$158 for Vista seems pretty reasonable to me. Bought the upgrade one and is the first legit copy ever had. Works well, little bit of mucking around updating drivers etc, but its all good