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Old Jan 9th 2010 | 4:26 pm
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It's utterly utterly hilarious, the Indians getting on their high horses about this. But rather than posit my own views on the subject, I think this diagram illustrates the point better than mere words can.



So if Indians are so stupid that they think they're more likely to get killed here in Oz than they are in their own backyard, then they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a visa in the first place.
 
Old Jan 9th 2010 | 4:35 pm
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And here it is in murders per capita.

# 26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
# 43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people

India / Australia = 0.0344083 / 0.0150324 = 2.288942551
 
Old Jan 9th 2010 | 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Hutch
It's utterly utterly hilarious, the Indians getting on their high horses about this. But rather than posit my own views on the subject, I think this diagram illustrates the point better than mere words can.

http://imgur.com/EzYwS.jpg

So if Indians are so stupid that they think they're more likely to get killed here in Oz than they are in their own backyard, then they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a visa in the first place.
If an Indian kills an Indian in India, is it racist? Don't different castes hate each other and kill each other? Is that racist or is there such a thing as castist?
 
Old Jan 9th 2010 | 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
If an Indian kills an Indian in India, is it racist? Don't different castes hate each other and kill each other? Is that racist or is there such a thing as castist?
Humanist?
 
Old Jan 9th 2010 | 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
If an Indian kills an Indian in India, is it racist? Don't different castes hate each other and kill each other? Is that racist or is there such a thing as castist?
And if a man kills a woman is that sexist? What about if an Indian man kills an non-Indian woman? Is that sexist or racist?

All these isms just confuse me.
 
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
And if a man kills a woman is that sexist? What about if an Indian man kills an non-Indian woman? Is that sexist or racist?

All these isms just confuse me.
If I hate my next door neighbour who happens to be a Kiwi and I decide to kill him, is it a racist killing or a neighbourist killing or if he did something really really wrong would it be justified(ist).
 
Old Jan 9th 2010 | 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
If I hate my next door neighbour who happens to be a Kiwi and I decide to kill him, is it a racist killing or a neighbourist killing or if he did something really really wrong would it be justified(ist).
If it's a man it's definitely justified.
 
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
If it's a man it's definitely justified.
He's actually really nice, they both are considering they're Kiwis . Just wondered, you know, if ever the situation came up, what defence would be the best, that he's a Kiwi, that he's a neighbour or that he did something wrong. Tricky one.
 
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
He's actually really nice, they both are considering they're Kiwis . Just wondered, you know, if ever the situation came up, what defence would be the best, that he's a Kiwi, that he's a neighbour or that he did something wrong. Tricky one.
Well, last time I killed someone I used the "time of the month" defense. Worked a charm. Now, the time before I tried the "justifiable" defense and had a bit harder time with the jury. Apparently some of the jurors didn't think leaving his socks on the bedroom floor was reason to bludgeon a man to death.
 
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Well, last time I killed someone I used the "time of the month" defense. Worked a charm. Now, the time before I tried the "justifiable" defense and had a bit harder time with the jury. Apparently some of the jurors didn't think leaving his socks on the bedroom floor was reason to bludgeon a man to death.
Didn't know if that one had been overdone or not. However it could work if I added the bit about him being a Kiwi as well. They'd have to let me off surely
 
Old Jan 9th 2010 | 7:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Hutch
It's utterly utterly hilarious, the Indians getting on their high horses about this. But rather than posit my own views on the subject, I think this diagram illustrates the point better than mere words can.

http://imgur.com/EzYwS.jpg

So if Indians are so stupid that they think they're more likely to get killed here in Oz than they are in their own backyard, then they shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a visa in the first place.
interesting that China is not on this list.
 
Old Jan 9th 2010 | 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by TheSun
interesting that China is not on this list.
hard stats are not available is my guess. Having said that, Chinese government has got a hang of executing its own electoral base, left and right. What category would that fall into?
 
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
And if a man kills a woman is that sexist? What about if an Indian man kills an non-Indian woman? Is that sexist or racist?

All these isms just confuse me.
All these -isms help create a perception that any situation can be described and fit into categories as easy as one-two-three, without actually trying to understand what went down. To some it appears to be giving a feel that they are in control, to others it means they know everything and can preach to the rest (media included).
 
Old Jan 9th 2010 | 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
If it's a man it's definitely justified.
That is definitely sexist and wrong

Originally Posted by Dorothy
Well, last time I killed someone I used the "time of the month" defense. Worked a charm. Now, the time before I tried the "justifiable" defense and had a bit harder time with the jury. Apparently some of the jurors didn't think leaving his socks on the bedroom floor was reason to bludgeon a man to death.
But we don't really mind what you say... really ...
 
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You will find there are very few who say that.
I didn’t think there would be plenty (but still enough to cause issues). Otherwise the Australia wouldn’t be an immigrant country.

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..racism, and is generally aimed more at the British, than it would be to Indians.
Hard to believe.
I always heard the other way around. I am not focusing on Indians. I am looking at all minorities.
 


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