I'm over it too! Not that it's been bad, but warmer weather would be very welcome.

When did it fill up?

I hated living in my part of the UK, couldn't wait to leave. The place is just awful and certainly not anywhere I wanted my kids to bring their kids up in. Crime is high, and prospects are really bad.

I love living here though and would never go back - not even for a holiday after the last one.

I know that not all of the UK is the same, but we could never afford a move within the UK. We just couldn't find a job that paid enough to cover the extra cost of living. Moving 12,000k was strangely more affordable



Christmas is very low key in Bradford. The only signs you will see all say "Happy Holidays" Been like that for a long time come to think of it. I know the shop next door to where I worked refused to even sell Xmas cards.

I can earn more here that I could in the UK, so I can afford to live in a better area. Plus the only thing I really hated about the UK is the snow - don't get that here

It's been lovely here today....for a change

I can't knock the hospital in Bradford, they really looked after both my Mum and Dad in their final weeks.

Glad I never had to spend a Friday or Saturday night in A&E though

The last 36 hours. It was about 2 foot from the bottom, now it's over 3/4s full. We've had a lot of wet stuff.

What do you think is different here?

A & E departments have security guards or police.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make

cos we is like, clevererest, innit.

I think he may become one of the immigrants I mentioned elsewhere who will make excuses or just ignore the same things here he hated in the UK. It's all about justification.

I think he will be one of those whinging poms. All he ever does is whinge as far as I can tell, not seen a single post that is not a whinge to be honest. He has been whinging for weeks about horrible Australians not giving him job over here whilst he still sits in the UK. It is kind of funny (peculiar) that somebody who whinges this much can actually complain about others being "negative".

If you live in Grimsby, things are becoming clearer. I can remember standing in a taxi queue near Grimsby Town station, having to quickly move out of the way while a couple of drunks were thrown out of the pub alongside the queue. Grimsby has always been a bit of a rough town, with a very conservative population.

I once spent a week in Grimsby, staying in a pub my ex (then boyfriend, later husband) was working in to help out some mates who were doing relief work there.

Both of us were goths at the time - went down well, I can tell you

Right, I'm off out to walk the dog. I have my full body armour on as I go onto the mean streets of Dorset.
I may not make it back alive


Yes, there are some problems in the UK that need to be sorted out. There are definitely some areas in some cities that I would not choose to live in. I lived in Mile End / Whitechapel for a while in the 90's and that was a sh**hole even then
However, there are plenty of other places that are great for bringing up families etc.

Of course it makes a huge difference to the way you view things if you can move from a rough part of the UK to a decent part of Australia. Or vice versa.
It also makes a huge difference if you make or lose money going either way due to the exchange rate.

Personally, I think I could be reasonably happy in either country because I choose to focus on what's good rather than what's bad.

I think if you read some of the other post who still LIVE in the UK , you will see that a lot of what I am saying is true, or are they all wrong as well, strange how a person living so far away knows more about the UK then people actually living there,
I admit I do not know a great deal about Australia that's why I come on this site, to find out where to look for work, cheap places to live, instead all I get is that I am expecting too much, got news for you I am not expecting anything. The one thing I do remember about Brisbane, leaving a bar walking through the city centre, early morning just as the clubs/pubs was kicking out and there was hardly any police presence there, and no sign of any trouble, and this from a major city,and this was the case nearly all the time I was there.

Irony, right there. Good luck to you. Hope it works out for you.

Lucky you. There are some areas of Brisbane I would definitely not walk through at club kicking out time -just as back home there are areas of Brighton that I treat in the same way.

If you went out in the Valley in Brisbane you'd see police everywhere. The night buses home have security guards on board - and from my experiences they're needed too.

When you move to Australia you don't lose all contact with people who live in the UK you know. Many people I know express no concerns about their personal safety - including Australian friends who live in W London and regularly experience going out in both countries. In fact one of them claims to find Melbourne more worrying.

We get the message - it's grim where you live - but it isn't everywhere.

I live in the UK, Garry, and I don't view things the same way you do. To be fair, I don't live in Grimsby and that may make a difference. There are certainly parts of the UK that I wouldn't want to live in - so I don't.
I went to some towns in Australia that I wouldn't live in either

Equally, I have been to places in both countries that I'm sure I would be very happy to live in.

I'm not blind to the U.K's problems, I just know that all westernised societies have them in one form or another.

I hope you do find somewhere that ticks all your boxes in Australia. If you know what it is you want out of life and you do your research then you are half way there.

I'm fairly sure I could be happy in Brisbane (or elsewhere in Australia) if I could be sure that my OH and I could get work. Recent threads on here have suggested that may not be the case though, and that is a worry when we both have reasonable secure jobs here.