renth

Found this...

"4. Loss of German citizenship
Please note that a German who is naturalized abroad (e.g. in Australia) loses his/her
German citizenship automatically through that naturalization. Entering Australian (or other
foreign) armed forces also leads generally to automatic loss of German citizenship.
However, it is possible to retain German citizenship by applying for a special authorization
(“Beibehaltungsgenehmigung”) – if the permission to retain German citizenship is granted, a
foreign nationality may then be acquired without losing the German citizenship.
For further information please contact the Embassy."

http://www.germanembassy.org.au/en/i...ship%20Law.pdf

Are you going for Beibehaltungsgenehmigung then?

annqldau

If you come here on a permanent residents visa you are inferring you intend to stay, so you may as well go the whole hog and get Citizenship.

You didn't have to do the quiz if you got it over with before it started.

You have the opportunity to have it and if you intend to stay here why not have it when you can.

You've put in your time so can have dual nationality with minimal fuss and no more visa renewing.

It's less hassle for the kids when they go job hunting especially for forces or government jobs.

One less box to tick on the forms.

You don't lose anything by getting it but as others have said you do gain the right to lots of things.

You don't get branded so nobody knows if you don't chose to tell them and you can still say you are English or what ever you chose to be.

Pollyana

WHich is probably the reason I will end up doing it.
The only other reason I will consider it is if I feel I can honestly swear allegiance to Australia - and at the moment I can't do that.

GinaUK

Getting one of those isn't so easy. Rubbeldiekatz will need to meet the conditions:
http://www.bva.bund.de/cln_115/nn_38...behaltung.html

Scroll down to read the conditions.

Gina

rabsody

No, I must admit I did feel a bit of a hypocrite.

Dorothy

Since Australia is now my home I feel it's in my best interest to become a citizen. I would like to be able to vote and have a say in things, to be able to apply for commonwealth government jobs and also have the convenience of holding an Aussie passport for when I travel. My daughter is also considering a military career, so it's easier to just get it done now rather than waiting and having to have her do it on her own later.

Besides, my son is a little shit who's gonna get himself deported at a later stage if he's not a citizen, so better get it done before DIAC discovers what a little shit disturber he is.

EvannTel

I did it because I chose Australia as the place I wanted to be and be part of the country. Luckily have never had to make the choice of having to renounce being a British subject (Brits aren't citizens) but I think i would have done had I had to. That wouldn't have meant I would or could have ignored my roots.

NKSK version 2

Expediency rules when it comes to individuals and countries as far as I'm concerned.

I'm long past all of the patriotism/allegiance/loyalty bit. Nations get their pound of flesh from citizens and citizens (try and) get their pound of flesh from countries.

Allegiance/loyalty/patrotism is anachronistic, belongs in the 19th Century and is often used as a PR/marketing exercise by the taxation authorities.

NigelWaring

I've had my Australian Citizenship a bit more than 30 years, I've lived here longer than anywhere else and consider myself an Australian, the UK is now a foreign country to me, I did visit it often but for many years have never felt at home there, it is unlikely that I will visit again unless they get the airports sorted out.

JackTheLad

It was a commitment to do the full emigration thing. Amplified by the fact we've had two kids while we are here. So if the kids are Aussies, we had bloody well better be Aussies too.

JTL

rabsody

Citizens? Surely you mean "economic units"?!

I agree with what you say - the only bit I felt hypocritical about was when it came to the pledge, allegiance to the country or whatever it was, because I didn't believe what I was saying.

p.s. thanks, I learnt a new word - anachronistic

EvannTel

As the oath/pledge is a legal matter, I take it you've just admitted to perjury. It is no longer a requirement to be a citizen. I wonder if it nullifies said contract?

rabsody

Probably Great, if they want to kick me out they'll have to let me take my kids with me.

p.s. I don't have "allegiance" to any country in my book, only to myself and my loved ones. Allegiance to me means would you be prepared to defend your country in war and the answer is no I wouldn't ... not Australia or the UK.

aus2be_OH

No offence, but I find it quite shocking that anyone is willing to live in a country, among it's people and avail themselves of everything that the country offers, yet not be willing to defend it in a time of war. It is not the country per se, that you defend, it is its' people and it's way of life.

Just my opinion of course....

Cheetah7

What has he been up to?