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Re: why are computers so complicated??
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Re: why are computers so complicated??
Blimey! All a bit passionate!
My tuppence worth.... I have been a PC user for years and years (yes I remember edlin). I;ve dabbled in programaming and some higher end user stuff (not developer) and am very comfortable with it and recognize its worth - its here to stay and thats fine. However, I have recently dipped my toes into Mac and for the uses I want I am very happy with it - happier than I have ever been with Windows out of the box. And thats nothing to do with style or design. Its takes a bit of getting used (Leopard in my case) but there are enough similarities to make it pretty much intuitive. I think the pluses are is doesnt suffer from malware and popups and the like that Windows does. For non techy people I think its simplicity is a real advantge. Of course there are apps which wont run on Mac but on whole for most users I doubt this to be an issue. Nearly everyting the avergae home user wants to do they can, without the threat of problems for the unitiated. Some recent surveys show its hackability (using Safari) to be easier than anything else but while this I take to be true - how often does it happen? Its not superiority complex, I dont think Macs are "better" per se but I do think they warrant consideration when buying new - especially for home use. For work, its Windows for me. I'm relatively new to Mac but for my home use, I recommend it. Maybe one day I'll try Linux and think again, but until then..... |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by EvannTel
(Post 6379606)
Blimey! All a bit passionate!
My tuppence worth.... I have been a PC user for years and years (yes I remember edlin). I;ve dabbled in programaming and some higher end user stuff (not developer) and am very comfortable with it and recognize its worth - its here to stay and thats fine. However, I have recently dipped my toes into Mac and for the uses I want I am very happy with it - happier than I have ever been with Windows out of the box. And thats nothing to do with style or design. Its takes a bit of getting used (Leopard in my case) but there are enough similarities to make it pretty much intuitive. I think the pluses are is doesnt suffer from malware and popups and the like that Windows does. For non techy people I think its simplicity is a real advantge. Of course there are apps which wont run on Mac but on whole for most users I doubt this to be an issue. Nearly everyting the avergae home user wants to do they can, without the threat of problems for the unitiated. Some recent surveys show its hackability (using Safari) to be easier than anything else but while this I take to be true - how often does it happen? Its not superiority complex, I dont think Macs are "better" per se but I do think they warrant consideration when buying new - especially for home use. For work, its Windows for me. I'm relatively new to Mac but for my home use, I recommend it. Maybe one day I'll try Linux and think again, but until then..... I've used all three in my time, Macs, Unix (linux) and Windows. I like Unix (Linux) and Windows for the sheer customisibility of them. Macs I'm sure are very good still, though I haven't used one since Tiger I think. Oh the popup thing is solved in windows too now. Even IE has a popup blocker. Spam is a universal problem, not solved by having a Mac. My main gripe about Mac Heads was it was a PC user telling his problem and people saying "Buy a Mac". What kind of reaction do you expect if a user says "my Holdens broken down" and you say, "Buy a Ford".:confused: JTL |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
sounds most definite like an Error 17.
and yes, I would say buy a mac too. 22" iMac will do you fine. However, to convert to Mac then it will take time and patience to learn a new operating system. Or, you could stay with a PC. I'm not impressed with Vista, our IT dept seem to be taking ages to get it ready for role out over our network. The biggest problem with windows based PCs is the shear amount of crap you can instal on it and not realize. What I done with out home computer, was set all other users (wife and kids), as limited accounts, so the could not install/uninstall reconfigure anything. And it's been running for years now. The only time it has needed the operating system rebuilt was for a hard drive failure and and other was me messing about with it. How ever, it is being replaced with 24" iMac when the time comes. |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
(Post 6379889)
My main gripe about Mac Heads was it was a PC user telling his problem and people saying "Buy a Mac". What kind of reaction do you expect if a user says "my Holdens broken down" and you say, "Buy a Ford".:confused: JTL Regarding the customisability aspect, yes so far (with Mac) this seems to be true, but I haven't felt the need to customise as it does everything (look, feel, actions etc) pretty much how I want by default. |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by tomy2tums
(Post 6380712)
The biggest problem with windows based PCs is the shear amount of crap you can instal on it and not realize.
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Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by badassbrickie
(Post 6374710)
no i have had computer for 3 years and apart from it working really slowly, there is no decent software on it. well not now iv deleted most of it!
and no not advertising smiley central, literally got a pop up and it installed it! i have been having a quick look on internet, but dont know what spec, memory etc i should be getting. and also they all have different processors:confused: Get one built up if you can, you can get better spec puter for your money.:D |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by EvannTel
(Post 6384099)
Thats the point I was trying to make albeit less eloquently. If you are techie its less of an issue (as you can recover it or not do it in the first place)
-Do you have any techie friends who know how to reinstall windows (xp or vista)? It's not that hard. -Do you know any techie friends who can set you up with ubuntu linux? As this is what you will really enjoy, it's so clean, fast and user-friendly. If neither of the above apply then you have the choice of learning to love technology (or at least spend many hours in front of the monitor) or get yourself a new machine (anything but vista if you plan to actually own it.) |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by heg3
(Post 6384221)
-Do you know any techie friends who can set you up with ubuntu linux? As this is what you will really enjoy, it's so clean, fast and user-friendly.
Had to happen...:( You get the Mac Heads and then the Linux guys come out. So ubuntu is so user friendly it opens Word 2007 documents? May not be a big deal now, but wait, in two years time he will be wondering why his user-friendly Linux PC can't do the usual stuff that eveyone elses PC can. I tried Suse linux on this pc as a dual boot for a few months. Got everything I wanted set up on it, just wasn't very impressed. And installing packages was a pain in the arse. But hey, if you're a Linux fanboi, who are we to argue. Go ahead and tell a non technical person to get a OS designed by techies for techies. JTL |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by badassbrickie
(Post 6374641)
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it an attempt to fix my computer, i have deleted all the key programs which make it work, cant access my itunes, and camera isnt being recognised. gos im so crap at technical stuff think i might just tell OH it's broken and buy a new one:unsure: |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by JackTheLad
(Post 6384260)
...But hey, if you're a Linux fanboi, who are we to argue. Go ahead and tell a non technical person to get a OS designed by techies for techies...
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Re: why are computers so complicated??
A (very) small selection of help posts from a computer/tech site:
>>What is the firmware version on your 7000? Most amplifiers can't decode MPEG audio (older ones often did, because it was part of the early DVD standards), so these days 99% of STBs will decode MPEG to PCM for the optical SPDIF. Now when in bitstream with older 7000s, it would send MPEG rather than PCM audio down the SPDIF, newer firmwares decode the MPEG to PCM first, even in Bitstream (while maintaining AC3 for Dolby Digital). << >>If you want your amp to decode Dolby and not the STB then you have to set the STD to Bitstream. Do you have a JIS F05 lead that you could try (assuming your amp has an optical input) to see if it's a HDMI issue?<< >>I have a Nokia N95 8GB which has G3 and Wifi. I have yet to make use of the G3 capability, but regularly use Skype and Voipbuster for VOIP calls to both PCs and landlines - Voipbuster only to landlines - using wifi hotspots.<< >>CredSSP is a new Security Service Provider (SSP) that is available in Windows XP SP3 via Security Service Provider Interface (SSPI). CredSSP enables an application to delegate the user’s credentials from the Client (via Client side SSP) to the target Server (via Server side SSP). Windows XP SP3 involves only the Client side SSP implementation and is currently being used by RDP 6.1 (TS), though it can be used by any third party application willing to use the Client side SSP to interact with applications running Server side implementations of the same on Vista / LH Server.<< >>Once you have downloaded the ISO file and burned it to a CD, you can use Autostreamer to merge the SP3 update with your XP SP2 install CD, and produce a single install CD for possible future use.<< Consumer items? I think not! |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by heg3
(Post 6384221)
My advice to help the OP would be:
-Do you know any techie friends who can set you up with ubuntu linux? As this is what you will really enjoy, it's so clean, fast and user-friendly. |
Re: why are computers so complicated??
Originally Posted by graz79
(Post 6378087)
Computers are complicated to keep people like me in a job :rofl:
If the machine is absolutley gone...First wipe it and try again. you should have installation disks that came with it? Alternatively get someone to download Ubuntu for you. Start with a fresh OS install. See if you can use it...before you go out and buy something new for the sake of it. http://www.enriquedans.com/wp-conten...2/flamewar.gif And now to upset all the fanboi's MAC O/S is technically the least secure due to the number of exploits per user and the length of average time it spends for Apple to patch and fix said problems. It is overpriced bit of glittery tat that can not be upgradedd to move with the times but has to be replaced when things go wrong. Windows is the most attached OS and Vista seems to be in a right mess (I only got ours to run usefully by disabling most of it). however the world uses Windows so everything works on Windows (for a given level of works) Linux will work for most things but the obvious thing that you need it to do it will not or will not do it the way you need it to. You will then spend too long in a dark room trying to work out which @^$()@^$) file you need to edit to get the thing working. once it is running there are not too many problems. Right that should have upset everyone :p </END http://www.enriquedans.com/wp-conten...2/flamewar.gif> As an IT engineer most computer problems are caused by the interface between the chair and the keyboard.:p This one http://linuxmint.com/mirrors.php?id=15 I play about with it under a virtual machine on my Current computer, When this computer eventually slows, now I'm used to linux, I will definitely switch over. If anyone every thought about switching to linux.... this is the one. |
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