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Broad Shoulders Aug 6th 2009 11:37 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7821270)
I must confess to being astonished by Strauss' decision to bat. Surely it would make perfect sense to take advantage of the swing conditions and hammer the Aussies down by lunch? :confused:

He has two excellent bowlers (Onions and Anderson) who have wreaked havoc with our lineup. So why bat first? :blink:

and send your injured wicketkeeper straight out to keep?????????????????????????

Burbage Aug 6th 2009 11:38 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 7821280)
Easy to say now though. If I were in Strauss' position I would have batted too, especially considering that your wicketkeeper suffered a back spasm 30 mins before play. Deciding to bat would have been made hoping that it would be the best part of a day before he has to come into bat and hopefully the best part of two before he has to keep, therefore giving his back enough time to recover.

Ponting said he'd have had a bat too

I didn't say it now, I said it then. I'm just pointing out now that I said it then.

Broad Shoulders Aug 6th 2009 11:39 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Burbage (Post 7821286)
I didn't say it now, I said it then. I'm just pointing out now that I said it then.

Yeah but he would have been a genius if they were 100-0 by now! He's either a genius or an idiot

Burbage Aug 6th 2009 11:39 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 7821282)
and send your injured wicketkeeper straight out to keep?????????????????????????

Well he's batting now so he's buggered either way. If he's actually injured. Sounds like it was just a spasm.

Burbage Aug 6th 2009 11:39 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 7821292)
Yeah but he would have been a genius if they were 100-0 by now! He's either a genius or an idiot

Well since they aren't 100-0 then he's an idiot.

Anderson would have had a five for by now.

Broad Shoulders Aug 6th 2009 11:42 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 
As Botham was saying earlier, you can win the toss and decide to bowl at headingly at around 10.30 with perfect bowling conditions and by 11.30 a bit of sun and the pitch is a batsmen's paradise.

Broad Shoulders Aug 6th 2009 11:43 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Burbage (Post 7821298)
Well since they aren't 100-0 then he's an idiot.

Anderson would have had a five for by now.

again, easy to say. Ponting said he would have batted too. Most of the commentators are saying they would have batted too, it's just one of those 50-50 tosses where you are not really advantaged by winning

Burbage Aug 6th 2009 11:43 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 7821307)
As Botham was saying earlier, you can win the toss and decide to bowl at headingly at around 10.30 with perfect bowling conditions and by 11.30 a bit of sun and the pitch is a batsmen's paradise.

You can if you get 4 wickets between 11 and 12.

Broad Shoulders Aug 6th 2009 11:43 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Burbage (Post 7821317)
You can if you get 4 wickets between 11 and 12.

...and how often does that happen?

Vash the Stampede Aug 6th 2009 11:44 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 7821280)
Ponting said he'd have had a bat too

It's much of a muchness for Ponting, since he doesn't have any swing bowlers. The Headingley pitch offers nothing for Australia except potential agony at the hands of Onions and Anderson.


and send your injured wicketkeeper straight out to keep?????????????????????????
Why not? If he can bat, he can keep. And just how "injured" is he, really? I don't see anyone replacing him on the team, so what's the big deal?

Burbage Aug 6th 2009 11:44 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7821320)
It's much of a muchness for Ponting, since he doesn't have any swing bowlers. The Headingley pitch offers nothing for Australia except potential agony at the hands of Onions and Anderson.



Why not? If he can bat, he can keep. And just how "injured" is he, really? I don't see anyone replacing him on the team, so what's the big deal?

5 down now. Bet Ponting is ecstatic he lost the toss.

dodge26 Aug 6th 2009 11:45 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 
Obviously a good toss to lose... all roads lead to the Oval...

Broad Shoulders Aug 6th 2009 11:47 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7821320)
It's much of a muchness for Ponting, since he doesn't have any swing bowlers. The Headingley pitch offers nothing for Australia except potential agony at the hands of Onions and Anderson.



Why not? If he can bat, he can keep. And just how "injured" is he, really? I don't see anyone replacing him on the team, so what's the big deal?

Onions isn't really a swing bowler anymore than Clark is. Hilfenhaus is a swing bowler. Johnson swings it more than Broad and Harmy do. So I don't really see how that comment is valid.

the pressures on the body are vastly different between keeping and batting

Burbage Aug 6th 2009 11:48 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 7821333)
Onions isn't really a swing bowler anymore than Clark is. Hilfenhaus is a swing bowler. Johnson swings it more than Broad and Harmy do. So I don't really see how that comment is valid.

the pressures on the body are vastly different between keeping and batting

Are you trying to say that Strauss made the correct decision?

Vash the Stampede Aug 6th 2009 11:48 pm

Re: Who's going to win The Ashes?
 

Originally Posted by Burbage (Post 7821325)
5 down now. Bet Ponting is ecstatic he lost the toss.

I can't believe I'm seeing this. Still, Australia have yet to bat. There's plenty of time for self-immolation yet. :unsure:


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