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Old Nov 18th 2019, 10:35 pm
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Just a thought of the day. I love being here, I love living here. But seeing all the stuff online at the moment over the UK and the upcoming general election concerns me. I'm still proud to be British..... but goodness, the nonsense I'm reading on Facebook (Yes, I know..... facebook) about hearing how Corbyn will make Britain great by all his communist ideas is insane...

Thoughts? Is Jeremy Corbyn a socialist/communist? Will his manifesto not bankrupt the UK? Im appauling at politics so interested to hear views/healthy (and educating to me) debate.
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Thoughts? Is Jeremy Corbyn a socialist/communist? Will his manifesto not bankrupt the UK?
Yes and yes - he basically hates the UK

Your post is worded in a way that assumes he's basically already won the election - which is far from the case. Corbyn is bad but have you heard his allies like McDonnell and Abbott talk? These people, especially Abbott, are dangerous. Abbott would be Home Secretary. I know she's had health problems and that's sad, but she is borderline imbecilic - completely incapable of being in government

Johnson, despite his eccentricities and negatives, is popular - across the political spectrum. The fact that he has tried to deliver Brexit but been denied by Parliament is going to carry a lot of weight with the electorate - even in areas that are not traditionally Conservative

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Just a thought of the day. I love being here, I love living here. But seeing all the stuff online at the moment over the UK and the upcoming general election concerns me. I'm still proud to be British..... but goodness, the nonsense I'm reading on Facebook (Yes, I know..... facebook) about hearing how Corbyn will make Britain great by all his communist ideas is insane...

Thoughts? Is Jeremy Corbyn a socialist/communist? Will his manifesto not bankrupt the UK? Im appauling at politics so interested to hear views/healthy (and educating to me) debate.
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Yes and yes - he basically hates the UK

Your post is worded in a way that assumes he's basically already won the election - which is far from the case. Corbyn is bad but have you heard his allies like McDonnell and Abbott talk? These people, especially Abbott, are dangerous. Abbott would be Home Secretary. I know she's had health problems and that's sad, but she is borderline imbecilic - completely incapable of being in government

Johnson, despite his eccentricities and negatives, is popular - across the political spectrum. The fact that he has tried to deliver Brexit but been denied by Parliament is going to carry a lot of weight with the electorate - even in areas that are not traditionally Conservative

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Couldn’t give a monkey’s what happens over there.

I’d rather direct my time and attention closer to home.
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Couldn’t give a monkey’s what happens over there.

I’d rather direct my time and attention closer to home.
For some of us the UK will always be home........
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For some of us the UK will always be home........
I do consider myself fortunate that I’m not one ... I have to summon superhuman levels of arsedness to consider visiting ... We are due a trip and I’m spoiling for time ...
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Thanks for pointing this one out. I shall have a read!!

Amazulu, apologies for the wording in regards to sounding as though he will indeed become in power, I'm pretty sure he won't get near to close. However, just reading some of the nonsense of "but free broadband for every home" and seeing people excited over it and a reason for voting in labour, concerns me. I haven't paid much attention to Corbyns allies, but I have heard some ofsome crazy stuff spouted by abbott, including the free movement scenario..... scary!
In regards to free movement, someone mentioned making it easier to emigrate to Australia. It made me particularly cross.... Not sure whether I have the right or not there but I worked hard to achieve this. It had been a long term goal and I'm proud of achieving the hoop jumping that was needed to get my visa. Why should it be made easier? (Or is this just likely a rumour and I'm getting my pants in a twist for no reason....) to be fair it's probably a whole other argument so back to the original post.

A friend suggested a labour government will empower people to work... and that it is only a minority who will take advantage of 'the system' I can't see this happening. Again I see myself as having only a very small amount of knowledge when it comes to politics, my husband educates me regularly and a discussion of communism and capitalism was raised this morning. All that he discussed with me just sounded what Jeremy Corbyn is trying to push through. It won't stand and the country will bleed further.

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Thanks for pointing this one out. I shall have a read!!

Amazulu, apologies for the wording in regards to sounding as though he will indeed become in power, I'm pretty sure he won't get near to close. However, just reading some of the nonsense of "but free broadband for every home" and seeing people excited over it and a reason for voting in labour, concerns me. I haven't paid much attention to Corbyns allies, but I have heard some ofsome crazy stuff spouted by abbott, including the free movement scenario..... scary!
In regards to free movement, someone mentioned making it easier to emigrate to Australia. It made me particularly cross.... Not sure whether I have the right or not there but I worked hard to achieve this. It had been a long term goal and I'm proud of achieving the hoop jumping that was needed to get my visa. Why should it be made easier? (Or is this just likely a rumour and I'm getting my pants in a twist for no reason....) to be fair it's probably a whole other argument so back to the original post.

A friend suggested a labour government will empower people to work... and that it is only a minority who will take advantage of 'the system' I can't see this happening. Again I see myself as having only a very small amount of knowledge when it comes to politics, my husband educates me regularly and a discussion of communism and capitalism was raised this morning. All that he discussed with me just sounded what Jeremy Corbyn is trying to push through. It won't stand and the country will bleed further.
Vote for me and get a free toaster is Corbyn's current policy - never underestimate the amount of people who will vote for free stuff - f**k the consequences

What Corbyn is proposing might work in a country that has little debt, but the UK is not that country. Their total state debt is 90% of GDP - which is huge. They pissed their oil windfall up against the wall on excessive welfare and have nothing to show for it today. What Corbyn is proposing would blow that out to 150% easily. He wants to tax the wealthy and big corporations to pay for his free toasters - but that's assuming that they'll hang around in order to do so

I'm glad I don't live there
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Vote for me and get a free toaster is Corbyn's current policy - never underestimate the amount of people who will vote for free stuff - f**k the consequences

What Corbyn is proposing might work in a country that has little debt, but the UK is not that country. Their total state debt is 90% of GDP - which is huge. They pissed their oil windfall up against the wall on excessive welfare and have nothing to show for it today. What Corbyn is proposing would blow that out to 150% easily. He wants to tax the wealthy and big corporations to pay for his free toasters - but that's assuming that they'll hang around in order to do so

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Free toaster hahahaha love the analogy!!! You have hit the nail on the head with the taxing the wealthy to fund his free 'toasters' my husband said the same last night, the wealthy will jump ship, the educated will take their degree's elsewhere (much like I have).

I knew the debt was bad but I didn't realise the UK were at that point of higher debt (So thank you for informing me). Corbyn will easily double the debt whilst expecting the wealthy to pay more.
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Free toaster hahahaha love the analogy!!! You have hit the nail on the head with the taxing the wealthy to fund his free 'toasters' my husband said the same last night, the wealthy will jump ship, the educated will take their degree's elsewhere (much like I have).

I knew the debt was bad but I didn't realise the UK were at that point of higher debt (So thank you for informing me). Corbyn will easily double the debt whilst expecting the wealthy to pay more.
Look at Ireland. Until the 1990's they were a socialist basket case. Their greatest export was their highly skilled and educated people so their population was hardly growing. EU subsidies kept them going. But they reformed their economy, cut corporate taxes and slashed regulations. Companies piled in and they boomed. Today they are flying - their per capita GDP has screamed up the rankings. HDI is the best measure of a country's success and the current ranking is:
1 Norway
2 Switzerland
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A decade ago they were about 15th. Extraordinary. There's an example on the UK's doorstep that shows what Jezza is proposing is madness. Just across the Channel, France shows them what happens to a country that persists with socialism
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None of my friends and family who live there are concerned so why should I be?
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Originally Posted by Clacfart View Post
Just a thought of the day. I love being here, I love living here. But seeing all the stuff online at the moment over the UK and the upcoming general election concerns me. I'm still proud to be British..... but goodness, the nonsense I'm reading on Facebook (Yes, I know..... facebook) about hearing how Corbyn will make Britain great by all his communist ideas is insane...

Thoughts? Is Jeremy Corbyn a socialist/communist? Will his manifesto not bankrupt the UK? Im appauling at politics so interested to hear views/healthy (and educating to me) debate.
He is obviously a Socialist. Do you have an understanding of what that means? It is not a Communist. It is the seeking of a fairer and gentler society. Something Britain could well seel to reinvent. Just where has decades of austerity and cut backs got the nation? Corbyn may not be the answer for al Britain's wrongs, but sure a change of direction is urgently needed.
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Look at Ireland. Until the 1990's they were a socialist basket case. Their greatest export was their highly skilled and educated people so their population was hardly growing. EU subsidies kept them going. But they reformed their economy, cut corporate taxes and slashed regulations. Companies piled in and they boomed. Today they are flying - their per capita GDP has screamed up the rankings. HDI is the best measure of a country's success and the current ranking is:
1 Norway
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A decade ago they were about 15th. Extraordinary. There's an example on the UK's doorstep that shows what Jezza is proposing is madness. Just across the Channel, France shows them what happens to a country that persists with socialism
Well no you missed out the economy crashed and house prices with it. A lot of money was lost and the Gallic Tiger was halted in its tracks. Emigration picked up substantially with loads flocking to Australia until four years back when the Irish economy turned on its bad luck making the onus on emigrating not as relevant. Still issues though and one wonders if much was learnt from the first boom/bust. France is so because of strong socialist tendencies meaning a better welfare and a desire to remain as such.
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Vote for me and get a free toaster is Corbyn's current policy - never underestimate the amount of people who will vote for free stuff - f**k the consequences

What Corbyn is proposing might work in a country that has little debt, but the UK is not that country. Their total state debt is 90% of GDP - which is huge. They pissed their oil windfall up against the wall on excessive welfare and have nothing to show for it today. What Corbyn is proposing would blow that out to 150% easily. He wants to tax the wealthy and big corporations to pay for his free toasters - but that's assuming that they'll hang around in order to do so

I'm glad I don't live there
They certainly did. Thatchers council housing give away to divide the working class was about as socialist, in the sense you usually refer to as, costing the country dearly. That and the austerity resulting from less taxes for the rich overall.
Great idea of Corbyn to restore the health of NHS. Once the best health system in the world. More affordable housing. Makes perfect sense. Privatise the railways. Not before time. Demand accountability. Yep badly needed. He wants those with the ability to pay more. Not to hoard it . A better society means all but the top few will benefit.
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They certainly did. Thatchers council housing give away to divide the working class was about as socialist, in the sense you usually refer to as, costing the country dearly. That and the austerity resulting from less taxes for the rich overall.
Great idea of Corbyn to restore the health of NHS. Once the best health system in the world. More affordable housing. Makes perfect sense. Privatise the railways. Not before time. Demand accountability. Yep badly needed. He wants those with the ability to pay more. Not to hoard it . A better society means all but the top few will benefit.
Here we go again........

Nope. Really cannot be arsed
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