Dorothy

Thanks Sally. You're always very kind to me.
I think this was tongue in cheek, but it's exactly what I was talking about. Yes, I've noticed it from the old timers, but I guess I'm just used to them. I tend to ignore the ones who are always bickering at each other so don't notice as much. I do notice when a poster with 12 or 20 posts comes along and slags off everyone and everything that isn't exactly the way they want. Any opinion other than theirs is seen as wrong and if you don't agree then you are an ignorant racist dickhead.
As always, Bix you are right. I should not have singled anyone out. I do think I'm very tolerant of everyone so don't like it much when others aren't.

Kooky.

Just out of interest, when does one stop being a "newbie"?

Gobbledegeek

I heard you have to pay (in kind) yourself out of noob status by having cybersex with a member of the 'clique'......for the love of God tell me it's not true

Dorothy

It's not some defined moment in time. For me it's more when posters have been around for a while or have posted more than a couple of times. Obviously you have been around for over a year and have posted a few hundred times, so you would no longer be considered a newbie. Someone who just joined last week and has 5 posts would be considered one.

Kooky.

Do I get to choose?

saveme

What a loathsome word 'Newbie' is, with all its connotations of exclusion and 'we know best' and 'get your knees brown before you come on here sprouting your unwanted opinions'.

'Newbie', yes I hate it even more than 'Funky' and 'Hubby'.

Dave

ps call me a 'New Chum' but never a 'Newbie'

moneypenny20

Agreed. Sorry Centurion but 'back in the day' things were no different. It comes and goes. Not noticed too much trolling, just a few wanting to argue for the sake of it, even playing devils advocate half the time.

Icarus

Shirley so stick yer beetroot where you stick yer battenburg

JackTheLad

Have you been on the poetry books again?

Amoebas don't flow, they are single cell organisms, if they flowed, their cell membrane would break and they would die. You are thinking of Jelly.

Any troll is almost invariably a new poster (or an incredibly patient troll who builds up 100s of posts and then self destructs). A new poster is not often a troll. But going by statistics that I've just thought up, most trolls are new posters, most new posters are not trolls.

And I hate the patronising term newbie as well.

JTL

asher

I have to agree with Bix it's no worse than it has been, I like to meet new people as well as chat to the people I view as friends on here (most of you )

If you see a troll remember not to feed them, If noone answers they can't get very far

This forum is a very friendly place

aston man

theres to much messing around on here,its a serious place for serious people..

stuckinblighty

tits

Bix

Actually I quite dislike it too, although I am guilty of using it.

It can indeed intone what you are quoting but equally it can just mean what the word says, a new person.

Isn't it about how the word is used ?
Isn't it actually about attitudes ?

I would hope seasoned posters would accept the newer contingent with open arms and respect their views which are of course every bit as valid as their own.

Equally I would expect a new member to take time to get to know their new surroundings before diatribing too profoundly.

It's not so different from real life.

As an example let's imagine I walked into a strange pub and immediately strutted the verbals. I'd get a smack in the gob.
On the other hand if I went in there and got to know people first I could say what I wanted over a beer with those same people.

It's about ones approach, and respect from both sides.

Bix

Agreed.
And we should treat all new posters just as if they were ....a new poster.
A troll will soon become aparent but if we have replied to them with good intentions in the meantime then so what ? No skin off our noses really is it ?
However it would be damaging if we misinterpreted a new poster as being a troll so benefit of the doubt is advised I suggest.

EvannTel

Hmmmm, I have spent many years on forums and consider myself versed in etiquete (if not spelling) and am aware of trolls and the sometimes subtle difference between that and people playing devils advocate. I have immigarted twice to Oz (well sort of, long story!).

Anyway I have only recently discovered this forum (well after all most migration have been done and dusted).

Am I newbie? Well yes but......able to contribute and behave - I'd like to think so. And I do recognise that not all are being tarred with ame brush! Just think pigeon holing people is wholly unAustralian!