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your not wrong there sweets!!!!! :(

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I don't blame Aussies for wanting to focus on more high skilled people rather than some chancer who thinks they can do some hair cutting course and gain easy pr because they can give someone a short back and sides or cook an egg!

I only see good news for those highly skilled people who have solid careers and high qualifications as there will be more places available.

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But half these highly skilled migrants seem less skilled than a hairdresser anyhow!

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you're 'aving a larf aren't ya?:eek:

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I think it is incredibly difficult for students now, but it has only become that way very recently as far as I can tell. I read a lot on the immigration forums and I think anyone who embarks on the student visa "route to PR" at this time must be completely and utterly insane. And have money to burn.

But it is well known that the student route has been abused in the past. If somebody was genuinely interested in studying hairdressing or cookery and not just interested in PR why would they come to Australia to study? The prestige of an Australian hairdressing or cookery qualification on the international circuit? I don't think so, makes no sense.

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I think this is a way to make Australia look safer for Indian students who seem to be getting attacked sometimes 2 to 3 times a day (each:eek:)

If they have no chance of getting a visa after a 2 week hairdressing/accounting (combined) course then they will stop coming. Less students = less attacks (or less Indian students to attack Indian students). So all in all a reduction in violence.

Everyone's a winner:thumbsup:

Keel

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Indian students generally come over to do IT and other higher end professions. I think the Aussies are targetting trades more than professional jobs.

Yes anyone who went to Australia to study for PR is insane and should have their heads tested.

It would be far easier and cheaper to qualift in your own country, get work experince and then go from there.

About time the Aussies closed this loop hole.

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Totally agree as my daughter is one of them at the present time. The irony of it is that she can and probably will be going to Uk to work.

There are a lot of grads that are not being employed after uni because employers want them to be up and running so to speak. We need to employ the people we are training first.

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The perception amongst the general Aussie populous is that its "an easy route to PR".... even if its not. The belief, right or wrong, is that Chef and Hairdressing schools, the length and breadth of Australia, are full of people using the course as a scam, just to gain PR.

Makes them an easy target for any Minister when it comes to tightening up on migration rules.

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You wait, tradies will still be on the wanted list :rolleyes: despite obvious downturn in work compared to before economic crisis.

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A very sweeping statement to call people on student visas 'insane'!! :thumbdown:

It may well have been 'cheaper' to have studyed back across, but would have taken years to finally get over and even more risk of what you have re-trained in coming off of any lists!! It is not an easy decision to have made, the risks involved with changes etc but the last resort in terms of time constraints and other dynamics which i'm sure most genuine people over on student visa's will agree with.

cheers
Mandy

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As I said earlier, I think most Australians believe the student visa route to PR is a straight forward scam that needed to be closed...and I have to say that, for the most part, I tend to agree with them.

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It has been a 'side' door entry into Australia that has been abused, hence the changes that have occured and has been necessary. In terms of the 'unfairness' that someone who has qualifications and experience and then not gain enough points, but someone that can come over and study for 2 years and then pretty much go for PR, then yes, i totally agree with you. When we initially looked at coming over, risks and costs aside, i thought it was too good to be true to be honest.

But to call someone 'insane' for considering all the options and risks etc is a poor comment to make.

Cheers
Mandy

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Well yeah.. that is a bit extreme. :)

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I am not sure I agree Dan.

Between 2004 and 2008, the number of Indian students commencing trade courses shot up from 1005 to 32,771.

In the same four year period the number of Indians studying in the cooking, hairdressing, hospitality and hospitality management areas jumped from 409 to 18,269.

A lot of those 12,000 cooks awaiting PR are Indians.