scrubbedexpat098

I just finished the eas way to control alcahol too, this is looking likely to be the start of a whole new me. No shit, I went to the Gym, ipod on shuffle, 2 of the 1st 3 tunes.


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I kid you not, was meant to be haha

RedDragon2008

The odd vegan on the Barbie not too bad. They do squirm and make a racket.

scrubbedexpat098

Graham Perry: I'm a vegan.

Vince Pinner: You'd never guess it.

Graham Perry: Do you know what a vegan is, Vince?

Penny Warrender: Of course he knows what a vegan is, don't you, Vince?

Vince Pinner: Absolutely, I never missed an episode of Star Trek.

BadgeIsBack

I remember back in the 80s when I first saw skinny models and thought it a phase- but sometimes I feel that phase never ended. Models are still thin really. Depends which corner of the market you are interested in...

That said, I notice that papers like the Daily Mail like to show photos of curvy celebs who are both normally curved (if rather still beyond Ms Average) so there is hope yet...

DeadVim

I don't 'work out' but when I'm on one of my sprawling walks I have Team America's Montage in my head.

Always fade out in a montage ...

scrubbedexpat098

Ha, I was just thinking of the Rocky 4 one, sod it I'm putting Team America on now **** yeah

ozzieeagle

Just talking to my wife about fitness and improvement, I personally hate gym work, I find the time really goes by slowly. However I do really love walking long distances and almost jogging. Thing is she is leaving me in her wake at present, and I'd best do something to stay in the same ball park as her.... So looks like I'll have to head to them Gym fairly soon as well.

Her main motivation in this, isn't appearance, or style, is actual physical health and life longevity. Her mum died at age 59 and thats playing a big part in her revisiting the Gym.

scrubbedexpat098

I'm not inflicting my wobbling gut on the public, not until it's very much less wobbly

Molly Coddle

I was brought up with the original 'supermodels' of the 90's and the promotion of Heroin Chic', as it became known at the time. The likes of Kate Moss were constantly in the lime light and with that came the pressure of girls my age and younger to be super thin. As usual it was all about people making money with no care for the girls who were feeling they had to look a certain way and eat as little as possible to achieve what was then portrayed as normal. It was wrong on so many levels and still is.

However I have noticed lately in the media a lot more focus on health and fitness, rather than focusing just on body image alone.I think there are a few reasons for this change, but the main one being, I'm convinced is, that bad diets are costing the Government millions of pounds in health costs and they have had to do something to dramatically change this and I don't for one minute believe it's because they care. I believe they are promoting healthy lifestyles simply to save them a lot of money, which if they do their job right I believe it will do in the long run.


I don't have a problem with health and fitness being promoted. Yeah sure it's a billion pound industry, and at the end of the day, it's all about money, as is models and advertising, but I much prefer the media focusing more on the health side of things rather than the body image side, which what seems to be happening a lot more at the moment.

BadgeIsBack

I think you make a stunning point there. Some of the issues are still here but there does seem a bit of a shift.

I agree - the explosion of Lifestyle Magazines for men and the apparent death of the 1990s 'Lads Mag' points to this. I remember buying GQ in the late 80s/early 90s long before the pltheora of 'Loaded' etc etc yet you can still buy GQ but the other tabloid publications have died a death.

It's similar the way we have seen this obsession with choice this last 15 years - there was one time when a product was great - and it was sold to you. Now companies seem to market their products which they own as already 'yours' - 'your choice', 'your way', 'you decide - (we're listening)'. I find that more annoying than the original sale: if I succumb to the allure of a nice watch that has some real value in my eyes, (and is a quality good) then more fool me. Er - it's my choice - as they say.

As a matter of fact, I don't think some of this whole 'how you look' and 'who you are' message is insidious at all. I don't have an issue with my daughters being encouraged to grow up as role models - people forget that you can have a brain, be healthy and have a job too! Teach people to be their best - and no - you don't have to spend a fortune - teach people to jettison all the rubbish in their lives. So buy 2 great jumpers that will last you 10-15 years but junk the whole fashion shite that will be out of 'fashion' in 2 years.

lesleys

Molly, Badge - you remember when thin models first made an impression on you, but these were by no means the first thin models. It was only when mini skirts first appeared in the 60s that anyone noticed how thin some models' legs were - eg Twiggy, Jean Shrimpton. Anorexia was well established amongst teenage girls then. Go back further to the 1930s and Wallis Simpson - "no woman can ever be too rich or too thin".

For most of history women kept their legs out of sight. A tiny waist (15-18 inches) was seen as desireable for a long time. Even my mum, who wasn't thin (or fat) was really proud of the fact that her waist was 22" when she got married in 1947.

Most people used to be much thinner on average than now - look at all those pictures from WW1 that are around at the moment. Rubenesque figures were the stuff of most peoples' imaginations.

spouse of scouse

With a sense of humour like that, you can't go wrong in anything you do!

northernbird

One of the funniest shows of all time.

Molly Coddle

I think the reason for the death of lads mags/porn mags and all the rest of them is purely down to the internet boom. Everything's moved to the internet and is internet based. Why go to a shop and pay for what you can look at online for free? For that reason I can't ever see those types of magazines ever coming back as big as they previously were.

You sound like a good role model for your daughters Badge but unfortunately society sees these types of women as 'role models, example; Katie Price, Kim Kardasian, the girls from The Only Way is Essex etc... I mean Jesus. Just look at them, our great 'role models'. How on earth are young girls/women supposed to blossom into intelligent, kind and well educated ladies if they only have these types of women in their lives? Most are completely thick, narcissistic, money hungry, classless women who hold no morals. But yet they sell magazines and tabloid newspapers. It's crazy. There are young impressionable girls all over the world who want to be like them, they see these women being looked up too, fawned upon, getting all the attention and being admired by men who are equally as thick! Then they think. I want to be like her! It's bonkers!
Society is truly messed up Badge. All I can say is thank God there are a few decent parents still around who can steer their kids in the right direction and protect them to some extent from this mess.









Yeah that's true. Don't you think though that back in the day people were a lot more active? A lot of people seemed to have manual jobs back then, even the women. Also they wasn't as much processed food around as there is today, besides I don't think people could really afford luxury food as it was known as back then and there was the rationing going on in the war too wasn't they?



You mention your mums waist, my mum mentioned hers to me too, she was very proud of that fact that my dad could put his hands round her waist and touch his thumbs together. Admittedly he has big hands but still, that's bloody slim. Corsets were used regular back then too. That must have helped form their tiny waists surely.

Molly Coddle

I second that. AGSOH goes a long way.