Luma

You obviously haven't done enough reading. AOL is one of the better search engines. Open you eyes and use your heart, listen to your instincts. Trust in yourself.

Luma

I would say it is actually giving it to them. Have you read up about HeLa cells.

Luma

This link is so that people can see that the CDC is not to be trusted.

Ozzidoc

The bonus really isnt worth the hassle. It used to be (in the last couple of years) less than £2K total.


I heard today on another board I frequent that some schools are closing down. Schools for the deaf. There aren't enough kids with hearing deficits to keep the schools going. Rubella vaccine programs are the cause.

Rob12paws

With all due respect, the vaccine has only been in existence for about five or six years, so it is far too early to see if it is having a long term effect on cervical cancer rates. The majority of the vaccinees so far have been early teenagers, and you would not expect to see cervical cancer in an eighteen year old, so it will be a while before the epidemiologists can conclude anything.

The two strains of HPV included in this vaccine are known to be oncogenic, but at least another ten strains have been identified which are also oncogenic, so it is extremely possible that these may start causing trouble in the vacuum that the HPV vaccine leaves. A bit like the problem with cases of meningitis caused by pneumococcal infection which have risen since the HiB vaccine became widespread.

Time will tell on the HPV - but I know I wouldn't have it, nor would I give it to my 12yo.

Rob12paws

And deafness has other causes than rubella. It can also result from repeated ear infections which are common in some children after receipt of the DPT vaccine...

beatle

No he himself withdrew his findings along with his research colleagues. I believe his was the only study that linked MMR to Autism
No one knows what causes Autism, at the moment general research names; genetic factors; age of parents; effect of environmental toxins on brain development in the womb; and growing use of IVF as contenders.

As someone who works with chidlren with disabilities and have a young child, I looked into this and sort opinions from people that worked in the field.

I felt I had a personal responsibility to immunise my child.

Perhaps we need to also be looking at what is in common household bug killers and plastics. Interestingly many chemicals sold in Australia are banned in Europe (source: www.choice.com.au)

Ozzidoc

I had a glance at the link. A lot of these kind of data are based on self-reporting.

An interesting example of self-reporting...well, in my eyes

I work in a hospital. When taking a history from patients, we have to (and want to!) find out about about any medication allergies or serious side affects, and any allergies generally. This week I had someone who was reporting an allergy to cucumber. They hadn't eaten a cucumber for 15 years because the last time they did, it gave them indigestion.

Some people will report anything. This person was strongly believed that this was clearly an allergy to cucumber. Just the same way that someone who developed a cold or a runny nose or a headache a day after a vaccination might do.

Don't get me wrong. Self-reporting of vaccine-associated incidents is very, very important.

For the record, I definitely WOULD give my children (if I had them) vaccinations, including the cervical cancer vaccines. I'd prefer to give Gardacil over Ceravax as it covers more strands of the virus. I still dont understand why males are vaccinated and females are not. I suspect that it will eventually be licensed for males as well.

Luma

Nobody is supposed to eat legumes or come in contact with any parabens.

So maybe the global recession is here for a good reason. Hopefully the natural disasters will destroy Monstanto's soy and canola crops and every other big food companies GM crops around the world.

With regards to the parabens - well those are everywhere. I guess we'll have to go live in the bush.

Ozzidoc

Prof study was as good as my policy that having a TV in the house causes autisim. Note I say TV. Not watching it. Or even having it in a room switched on or off. Just somewhere in the house.

I have to get ready for work - I'll try to hunt out some of my old posts later, where I explained that the Wakefield "work" was used as a teaching resource in my first semester studying to be a Dr. We taught "How To Read A Paper" (this is also the name of a book) .We had to "critically analyse" the Lancet paper.

Ozzidoc

Food GM has been around for centuries if not millenia.

Ozzidoc

Peer review only came about BECAUSE of the Wakefield paper. There wasn't much robust peer reviewing of medical doctors prior to that....UK doctors had never been trained in how to do this.

Luma

And look at us now. 50% of men are getting cancer. Glad you like to eat GM. Go ahead.

Luma

Quack quack quack.

Now I know why they call them quack because that is what they are.

www.doctorsaredangerous.com

Ozzidoc

I suspect that has to do with the cancer detection rates.

I'm curious to know what foods you eat. Not one of them will not have been genetically modified. I guarantee it. I wonder if you understand the term genetically modified. How do you think that this has been happening for millenia? Hint....and for the record, I first came across this through my mother's flower-growing uncle. He bred THE most beautiful daffodils. Multicoloured. In the 1960s.