Originally Posted by willamos

If you want me to believe you are not just another Australian apologist you'll perhaps need to be able to engage in a discussion such as this without recourse to ridiculing what is a perfectly valid debate.

Originally Posted by kporte

I don't really concern myself with what a voice in the ether thinks of me tbh, and you did exactly what I am doing in the Muslim UK thread

Originally Posted by willamos

See how any discussion where people like you can't promote Australia (as you obviously know you can't when it comes to music) hits a wall pretty fast? As soon as people feel that their beloved Aussie-land is going to lose the debate they want it closed.

Originally Posted by willamos

No, I did not. What I did there was to try to point out that issues pertaining to Islam are relevant to all western '"Christian'' nations and to suggest it was only a UK issue was a narrow debate. I was not ridiculing the discusssion.

You are, however, ridiculing this discussion by suggesting that we cannot compare UK and Australian music without reference to Kenya.

See the difference?

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus

Zenyatta Mondatta by the Police sounds Kenyan.

Originally Posted by kporte

You totally miss the point again. I already agreed with you that the music here is lacking. My point is your threads are one dimensional, hackneyed diatribes with the sole aim of slagging off Australia in any way possible. It's just a bit dull that's all.
I suggest instead of starting off with some tosh about not wanting to start an Aus v UK debate, you just nail your colours to the mast and start a slag off Australia thread. It would at least be honest and you may get some stuff off your chest

Originally Posted by willamos

Well, if so, you're dependable rebuke of any criticism is equally tiresome. .

Originally Posted by kporte

Are you not reading the posts again Will? I agreed with your criticism

Originally Posted by willamos

Well, if so, you're dependable rebuke of any criticism is equally tiresome. And frankly your entertainment is bottom of my list of priorities. No one forces you to respond to any thread of mine if you find them dull, do they?

And I didn't want a slag off Australia debate. Wanted people to offer reasons why there might be fewer artists of international success from Australia. But that idea in itself was obviously not comfortable enough for some so it quickly descended into a ''tell the Aussie hater to shut up'' thread. Predictably.

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus

http://www.musicomh.com/albums/m-craft_0506.htm

Try that if you want to listen to some good, or at least I think it is, Australian music.

Originally Posted by Sally Redux

We saw a band called 'Human Nature' in Vegas. Apparently they are the No. 1 band in Australia never heard of them before.

Originally Posted by willamos

Don't agree at all there.

The difference is that those who rubbish the UK garner more support and acceptance from the wider BE community than those who rubbish Australia do.

Those who criticise Australia get jumped on quite fast a lot of the time by an angry mob and it is their attempts to defend themselves (after being backed into a corner by said mob) that likely makes them appear to ''need medication''.

Also, most BE posters are not in the UK. Some are, yes, but most are not. Those who attack Australia have the added issue of being IN Australia right now; i.e. a place they do not like.

Those who attack the UK are attacking it from a distance and so are likely less passionate because they don't care so much now they are not there.

Originally Posted by willamos

So Australia and Kenya are comparable are they, kporte? And you don't think that was a slight silly thing to say at all?!

Sounds a bit keen to defend Australia, that remark.