ozzieeagle

Really are you that naive?

They are already starting down here.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/very-bla...e-ministership

https://www.facebook.com/events/318718212007011/

Amazulu

CF=0

Shite like this only turns the average punter away and into the arms of those who want to be tough on border protection

Shorten will also have to go to the right on boats

Works for me

Beoz

Is that the best you can do?

An extremely successful policy supported by most Australians in which even your own Labor clowns said they would not change if in power.

See. This is the problem with the Labor party. They have nothing except relying on their opposition to self destruct.

It's a sad ideology you live in Ozzie. One that's decades out dated and rapidly declining in its support. Blinkers on ..... enjoy

Beoz

This is interesting.

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/calls-mount-for-wrecker-tony-abbott-to-quit-politics/news-story/433969c9bc6d76c70a50922b01c32ae1

There was a lot of public support for Turnbull. Now Australia is looking for a scapegoat.

Perfect opportunity for the right independent to run on the Insular Penninsula.

At kids soccer this morning there was a lot of speculation Turnbull could run as an independent for Wentworth. Or even start his own party. Certainly worthwhile throwing a candidate in for the Insular Peninsula.

GarryP

https://www.pollbludger.net/2018/08/...vote-entrails/

These polls were before Dutton failed - and he was already down into 'loss' territory as a result of his actions. He's now basically screwed. If they can use it to get rid of Abbott as well, then the "axis of loony" starts collapsing, potentially allowing Morrison to push more progressive policies that would be more voter friendly. However, it's worth remembering that he himself is a nasty piece of work, so policy shift seems unlikely.

I'm actually wondering if the election can be forced soon - and if so the libs will get creamed - they just aren't even close to ready.

Beoz

I said public support. You are unbelievable. You turned that into MP support. Nice try. No cigar again.

And what a disaster that would be for Australia. Why would you want to take a country which is doing really well, and destroy it?

the troubadour

Well one does have to laugh. It was due to Coalition MP's fearing for their continued employment that a insurrection from within ranks occurred. The ideology on the nose of course, being proved time again to be a flop and a costly one at that, neoliberalism doesn't have a great shelf life to follow. The vogue created by such failure is why populist parties have been doing well.

the troubadour

Except it is not doing well. But at least some of the issues have come to light. If the country was doing well, of course, the panic button would not have been set within the Coalition Party, but thing being very little likely to change. The wreckers don't care for anything beyond their continuing career and pension. Definitely time to ditch the Coalition.

the troubadour

Another two PM's by Christmas?

the troubadour

May work for you, but not all are on the right to Genghis Khan. Outside of the extreme conservative Right and rusted on Bogans, I suspect far fewer support the shocking treatment that has been dished out to those in detention centres, which ALP claim, was never meant to be an ever on going thing.

Shorten will likely bring the fiasco that exists at present to an end. The cost has been enormous in gold and suffering.

Amazulu

Another leftie with their head in the sand

The majority of people in this country - left and right - do not want the Manus/Nauru economic migrants and other economic migrant boat arrivals anywhere near Australia. End of

The only way for Shorten (if elected) to finalise Manus/Nauru is to bring them to Australia. If he brings them to Australia, boats start arriving again. Boats start arriving, he loses the next election

People do not want them here - ask some Sudanese people who came here via the UNHCR what they think of boat economic migrants. You may be surprised by the answer

The Manus/Nauru muppets can stay there, go somewhere else or go home. Simple. Any alleged suffering is overblown hand-wringing nonsense

the troubadour

Fortunately you and your kind don't have much influence over affairs of the nation. Although far too much considering the 'thin platform' of hatred and dissent towards decency that the Right tries to run on. Yes, a race to the bottom.
Shorten may or may not bring them to Australia. Howard did over time when he was in power. But the NZ option remains. Time the whole sorry episode was brought to a close whatever the solution that is finally reached may be.
Wrong yet again. The remaining asylum seekers in both locations, have met criteria and are refugees. It matters not, whether you like or agree with the assessment those are the facts. Australia has an obligation as thus to reach a conclusion to the intolerable situation.
In fact in my area of acquaintance, I know of nobody that supports the present state. It displays the tone of people you mix with if those are your findings. No wonder you tread in the political wilderness ....Sudanese? Actually glad you mention that group. Who they are pretty sore about is not asylum seekers being ill treated in off shore camps, to which many express sympathy with, being quite strong in Christian belief, but the farcical act called a government and the former Minister Dutton and comments about folk too scared to eat out in Melbourne due to Sudanese gang problems. More wrong info I'm afraid.

Amazulu

If that stupid, virtue signalling woman who runs New Zealand wants them that's cool - as long as there is an agreement that they can never come to Australia

The rest of your post unintelligible

moneypenny20

I've missed something. What are you re editing and why? I've not experienced any multiquote problems nor have I noticed any issues when other people multiquote.

Beoz

And that's the problem. As much as the Liberal Party (and Labor before them) strive to wreak themselves only one party has proven to do everything else right. The Libs. Labor wrecked themselves and the country. The Libs only wreak themselves.

You know the right way to vote. Don't be resentful and foolish now.