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The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
#541
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Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
22nd June 2016 £1 = 1.3099 Euros
9th December 2016 £1 = 1.18377 Euros
Care to disagree or apologise or will you make an irrelevant comment instead?
I think the reason your mind is in a muddle is that you read somewhere it has risen since the huge fall e.g. 8th July 2016 £1 = 1.17222 Euros
9th December 2016 £1 = 1.18377 Euros
Care to disagree or apologise or will you make an irrelevant comment instead?
I think the reason your mind is in a muddle is that you read somewhere it has risen since the huge fall e.g. 8th July 2016 £1 = 1.17222 Euros
After Brexit the pound was worth around 0.86p against the Euro and hovered there for while before moving to the 0.9p. It is now back in the low 0.8's.
Therefore the pound is coming back against the Euro since Brexit.
I know you want to pound to sink. I know you want Farage to look like he supported Brexit for his own financial gain, but making stuff up doesn't fly.
Care to give an apology?
#542
Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
But your story is not stacking up. Earlier you said he is £1K (assuming you mean pounds here) better off. Considering the exchange rate has fluctuated wildly how do you come up with this flat figure if he is paid in Euro's?
After Brexit the pound was worth around 0.86p against the Euro and hovered there for while before moving to the 0.9p. It is now back in the low 0.8's.
Therefore the pound is coming back against the Euro since Brexit.
I know you want to pound to sink. I know you want Farage to look like he supported Brexit for his own financial gain, but making stuff up doesn't fly.
Care to give an apology?
After Brexit the pound was worth around 0.86p against the Euro and hovered there for while before moving to the 0.9p. It is now back in the low 0.8's.
Therefore the pound is coming back against the Euro since Brexit.
I know you want to pound to sink. I know you want Farage to look like he supported Brexit for his own financial gain, but making stuff up doesn't fly.
Care to give an apology?
MEP's salaries for the year are set at a point in time and when they were set the pound was much higher against the euro than it is now. Farage's salary doesn't move every day with E/R fluctuations!!!
If you don't follow that read this and shut up on the matter for goodness sake.
MEPs including Nigel Farage have seen their pay rise by £1,000 a month | Daily Mail Online
#543
Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
MEPs are paid in euros, and their salary currently works out as €8,213 per month.
In May that was worth £6,317. But the pound's fall in value following the Brexit vote means it is now more like £7,300.
Liberal Democrat Tom Brake, who did the calculations, told the Sunday Times: 'While the fall in sterling is hitting families through higher prices in shops, Farage and his Ukip colleagues are enjoying a Brexit bonus worth thousands of pounds.
In May that was worth £6,317. But the pound's fall in value following the Brexit vote means it is now more like £7,300.
Liberal Democrat Tom Brake, who did the calculations, told the Sunday Times: 'While the fall in sterling is hitting families through higher prices in shops, Farage and his Ukip colleagues are enjoying a Brexit bonus worth thousands of pounds.
#544
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Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
Which E/R do you dispute because I looked them up when you made the ridiculous claim that the pound is stronger against the euro since Brexit. Over 1.30 before 1.18 today. It's like arguing Canberra isn't the capital of Australia; it's a fact.
MEP's salaries for the year are set at a point in time and when they were set the pound was much higher against the euro than it is now. Farage's salary doesn't move every day with E/R fluctuations!!!
If you don't follow that read this and shut up on the matter for goodness sake.
MEPs including Nigel Farage have seen their pay rise by £1,000 a month | Daily Mail Online
MEP's salaries for the year are set at a point in time and when they were set the pound was much higher against the euro than it is now. Farage's salary doesn't move every day with E/R fluctuations!!!
If you don't follow that read this and shut up on the matter for goodness sake.
MEPs including Nigel Farage have seen their pay rise by £1,000 a month | Daily Mail Online
Today their salary on your figure is £68xx. It will change tomorrow.
Not sure if you've ever lived in one place and claimed a salary from another. Its a pain in the arse. There is no consistency of salary. What might be good one month is terrible the next.
I have seen people lose houses by doing this. Playing the currency game with your entire salary is risky business.
You and the Mail need to get a grip.
#545
Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
Your argument is flawed on all fronts. Even believing the Mail's hypothesis on this is foolish. Your 1000 pounds is your first mistake followed by countless others.
Today their salary on your figure is £68xx. It will change tomorrow.
Not sure if you've ever lived in one place and claimed a salary from another. Its a pain in the arse. There is no consistency of salary. What might be good one month is terrible the next.
I have seen people lose houses by doing this. Playing the currency game with your entire salary is risky business.
You and the Mail need to get a grip.
Today their salary on your figure is £68xx. It will change tomorrow.
Not sure if you've ever lived in one place and claimed a salary from another. Its a pain in the arse. There is no consistency of salary. What might be good one month is terrible the next.
I have seen people lose houses by doing this. Playing the currency game with your entire salary is risky business.
You and the Mail need to get a grip.
His salary, paid each month, in pounds, into his bank account has nothing to do with the E/R thereafter.
No matter what you say the pound was over 1.3 Euros pre Brexit and is below 1.2 Euros now if you want to argue the irrelevant side issue of the effect of Brexit on the E/R.
My last word on it and if you don't understand get someone else to explain it to you.
What the last bit has to do with this issue is anyone's guess. MEP's in UK had a windfall pay rise thanks to Brexit, end of story, it's all I said (which you've disputed umpteen times).
Last edited by OzTennis; Dec 11th 2016 at 7:58 am.
#546
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Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
I've taught some students like you in my time. Here's how it works. Let's say that Farage's salary is decided on July 31st 2016 - that's for the upcoming year. With it so far? MEP's salaries are set at XK Euros. Nige lives in England so he will have pounds paid into his bank account for the forthcoming year AT THE EXCHANGE RATE ON THAT DAY. Well, when the salaries were set it was after the pound had plunged from over 1.3 to 1.17 Euros and therefore Nige and other British MEP's got a windfall circa £1K per month rise.
His salary, paid each month, in pounds, into his bank account has nothing to do with the E/R thereafter.
No matter what you say the pound was over 1.3 Euros pre Brexit and is below 1.2 Euros now if you want to argue the irrelevant side issue of the effect of Brexit on the E/R.
My last word on it and if you don't understand get someone else to explain it to you.
What the last bit has to do with this issue is anyone's guess. MEP's in UK had a windfall pay rise thanks to Brexit, end of story, it's all I said (which you've disputed umpteen times).
His salary, paid each month, in pounds, into his bank account has nothing to do with the E/R thereafter.
No matter what you say the pound was over 1.3 Euros pre Brexit and is below 1.2 Euros now if you want to argue the irrelevant side issue of the effect of Brexit on the E/R.
My last word on it and if you don't understand get someone else to explain it to you.
What the last bit has to do with this issue is anyone's guess. MEP's in UK had a windfall pay rise thanks to Brexit, end of story, it's all I said (which you've disputed umpteen times).
Get a grip.
#547
Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
The smugness about your bonus and self-interest says much.
#548
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Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
I've taught some students like you in my time. Here's how it works. Let's say that Farage's salary is decided on July 31st 2016 - that's for the upcoming year. With it so far? MEP's salaries are set at XK Euros. Nige lives in England so he will have pounds paid into his bank account for the forthcoming year AT THE EXCHANGE RATE ON THAT DAY. Well, when the salaries were set it was after the pound had plunged from over 1.3 to 1.17 Euros and therefore Nige and other British MEP's got a windfall circa £1K per month rise.
His salary, paid each month, in pounds, into his bank account has nothing to do with the E/R thereafter.
No matter what you say the pound was over 1.3 Euros pre Brexit and is below 1.2 Euros now if you want to argue the irrelevant side issue of the effect of Brexit on the E/R.
My last word on it and if you don't understand get someone else to explain it to you.
What the last bit has to do with this issue is anyone's guess. MEP's in UK had a windfall pay rise thanks to Brexit, end of story, it's all I said (which you've disputed umpteen times).
His salary, paid each month, in pounds, into his bank account has nothing to do with the E/R thereafter.
No matter what you say the pound was over 1.3 Euros pre Brexit and is below 1.2 Euros now if you want to argue the irrelevant side issue of the effect of Brexit on the E/R.
My last word on it and if you don't understand get someone else to explain it to you.
What the last bit has to do with this issue is anyone's guess. MEP's in UK had a windfall pay rise thanks to Brexit, end of story, it's all I said (which you've disputed umpteen times).
British MEPs including Ukip paid nearly £1,000 a month more in wake of post-referendum pound slump | The Independent
I can't seem to find any to suggest an MEP's salary is fixed annually so it doesn't suffer exchange rate fluctuations. Can you share with me your source?
#549
Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
Wow look at this. One of your rags saying the same thing I am. Buried at the bottom after the propaganda of course.
British MEPs including Ukip paid nearly £1,000 a month more in wake of post-referendum pound slump | The Independent
I can't seem to find any to suggest an MEP's salary is fixed annually so it doesn't suffer exchange rate fluctuations. Can you share with me your source?
British MEPs including Ukip paid nearly £1,000 a month more in wake of post-referendum pound slump | The Independent
I can't seem to find any to suggest an MEP's salary is fixed annually so it doesn't suffer exchange rate fluctuations. Can you share with me your source?
#551
Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
How Nigel Farage pocketed a £7,500 pay rise after Brexit - Mirror Online
Nigel Farage and his fellow Ukip MEPs will continue to pocket their £84,000 a year salaries for the foreseeable future, the party has confirmed.
Parliamentarians get €8,213.02 a month before tax, or €98,556 (£83,959) a year, plus thousands of euros to spend on office costs, travel expenses and daily expenditure.
And as it is paid in euros, British MEPs will find their spending money goes further than before when they change it into sterling.
Nigel Farage plans to pocket his £84,000 MEP salary until we officially quit the EU
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...el-farage-ukip
Nigel Farage enjoys 12% pay boost in Euros thanks to Brexit | London Evening Standard
British MEPs including Ukip paid nearly £1,000 a month more in wake of post-referendum pound slump | The Independent
The onus is on you to produce an article which says his pay hasn't risen and the pound is now stronger against the Euro than it was before Brexit.
A graph of the exchange rate - date of referendum £1 = 1.3089, today 1.19.
Otherwise move on or apologise for your incorrectness. I anticipate though that you'll say you can't believe what's in the Guardian or Mirror.
Nigel Farage and his fellow Ukip MEPs will continue to pocket their £84,000 a year salaries for the foreseeable future, the party has confirmed.
Parliamentarians get €8,213.02 a month before tax, or €98,556 (£83,959) a year, plus thousands of euros to spend on office costs, travel expenses and daily expenditure.
And as it is paid in euros, British MEPs will find their spending money goes further than before when they change it into sterling.
Nigel Farage plans to pocket his £84,000 MEP salary until we officially quit the EU
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...el-farage-ukip
Nigel Farage enjoys 12% pay boost in Euros thanks to Brexit | London Evening Standard
British MEPs including Ukip paid nearly £1,000 a month more in wake of post-referendum pound slump | The Independent
The onus is on you to produce an article which says his pay hasn't risen and the pound is now stronger against the Euro than it was before Brexit.
A graph of the exchange rate - date of referendum £1 = 1.3089, today 1.19.
Otherwise move on or apologise for your incorrectness. I anticipate though that you'll say you can't believe what's in the Guardian or Mirror.
#552
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Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
How Nigel Farage pocketed a £7,500 pay rise after Brexit - Mirror Online
Nigel Farage and his fellow Ukip MEPs will continue to pocket their £84,000 a year salaries for the foreseeable future, the party has confirmed.
Parliamentarians get €8,213.02 a month before tax, or €98,556 (£83,959) a year, plus thousands of euros to spend on office costs, travel expenses and daily expenditure.
And as it is paid in euros, British MEPs will find their spending money goes further than before when they change it into sterling.
Nigel Farage plans to pocket his £84,000 MEP salary until we officially quit the EU
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...el-farage-ukip
Nigel Farage enjoys 12% pay boost in Euros thanks to Brexit | London Evening Standard
British MEPs including Ukip paid nearly £1,000 a month more in wake of post-referendum pound slump | The Independent
The onus is on you to produce an article which says his pay hasn't risen and the pound is now stronger against the Euro than it was before Brexit.
A graph of the exchange rate - date of referendum £1 = 1.3089, today 1.19.
http://i.imgur.com/F4FdTkz.png
Otherwise move on or apologise for your incorrectness. I anticipate though that you'll say you can't believe what's in the Guardian or Mirror.
Nigel Farage and his fellow Ukip MEPs will continue to pocket their £84,000 a year salaries for the foreseeable future, the party has confirmed.
Parliamentarians get €8,213.02 a month before tax, or €98,556 (£83,959) a year, plus thousands of euros to spend on office costs, travel expenses and daily expenditure.
And as it is paid in euros, British MEPs will find their spending money goes further than before when they change it into sterling.
Nigel Farage plans to pocket his £84,000 MEP salary until we officially quit the EU
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...el-farage-ukip
Nigel Farage enjoys 12% pay boost in Euros thanks to Brexit | London Evening Standard
British MEPs including Ukip paid nearly £1,000 a month more in wake of post-referendum pound slump | The Independent
The onus is on you to produce an article which says his pay hasn't risen and the pound is now stronger against the Euro than it was before Brexit.
A graph of the exchange rate - date of referendum £1 = 1.3089, today 1.19.
http://i.imgur.com/F4FdTkz.png
Otherwise move on or apologise for your incorrectness. I anticipate though that you'll say you can't believe what's in the Guardian or Mirror.
Let's say that Farage's salary is decided on July 31st 2016 - that's for the upcoming year. With it so far? MEP's salaries are set at XK Euros. Nige lives in England so he will have pounds paid into his bank account for the forthcoming year AT THE EXCHANGE RATE ON THAT DAY. Well, when the salaries were set it was after the pound had plunged from over 1.3 to 1.17 Euros and therefore Nige and other British MEP's got a windfall circa £1K per month rise.
His salary, paid each month, in pounds, into his bank account has nothing to do with the E/R thereafter.
#553
Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
Unless I have overlooked it, none of those articles confirm your statement that an MEP's salary is fixed in pounds for the year. In fact they all seem to suggest they are paid in Euro's which means their salaries fluctuate. If I did over look it can you point it out to me?
Let's say that Farage's salary is decided on July 31st 2016 - that's for the upcoming year. With it so far? MEP's salaries are set at XK Euros. Nige lives in England so he will have pounds paid into his bank account for the forthcoming year AT THE EXCHANGE RATE ON THAT DAY. Well, when the salaries were set it was after the pound had plunged from over 1.3 to 1.17 Euros and therefore Nige and other British MEP's got a windfall circa £1K per month rise.
His salary, paid each month, in pounds, into his bank account has nothing to do with the E/R thereafter.
Let's say that Farage's salary is decided on July 31st 2016 - that's for the upcoming year. With it so far? MEP's salaries are set at XK Euros. Nige lives in England so he will have pounds paid into his bank account for the forthcoming year AT THE EXCHANGE RATE ON THAT DAY. Well, when the salaries were set it was after the pound had plunged from over 1.3 to 1.17 Euros and therefore Nige and other British MEP's got a windfall circa £1K per month rise.
His salary, paid each month, in pounds, into his bank account has nothing to do with the E/R thereafter.
Where's your evidence the pound has not fallen since Brexit (I couldn't give a monkey's if it went up a cent last month) or an article which refutes that UK MEP's have made a windfall gain out of Brexit?
I'm not going to waste any more time on this.
#554
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Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
You've changed your tune from Farage hasn't had a pay rise to focussing on the method of his pay rise. What does it matter, the pound was nearly 1.31 referendum day and is now 1.19. How can there not be a pay rise?
Where's your evidence the pound has not fallen since Brexit (I couldn't give a monkey's if it went up a cent last month) or an article which refutes that UK MEP's have made a windfall gain out of Brexit?
I'm not going to waste any more time on this.
Where's your evidence the pound has not fallen since Brexit (I couldn't give a monkey's if it went up a cent last month) or an article which refutes that UK MEP's have made a windfall gain out of Brexit?
I'm not going to waste any more time on this.
Which one shall it be? Or did you create a little white lie?
Last edited by Beoz; Dec 12th 2016 at 7:46 pm.
#555
Re: The Trumpmare is happening... Who will win?
I wonder when construction starts on the Mexican wall.