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moneypenny20 Feb 2nd 2009 3:16 pm

Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Here you are ladies (and some gents presumably). The old one is here:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=515648

Just noticed MarkMC was posting. I assume the 'gents' bit would apply to him ;)

TiddlyPom Feb 3rd 2009 1:17 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 7241947)
Here you are ladies (and some gents presumably). The old one is here:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=515648

Just noticed MarkMC was posting. I assume the 'gents' bit would apply to him ;)

Thank you oh lovely moneypen.

moneypenny20 Feb 3rd 2009 1:50 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7245959)
Thank you oh lovely moneypen.

;)

TiddlyPom Feb 3rd 2009 1:52 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 7246052)
;)

So, my thyroid's great.

How's yours?


:teeth_smile:

moneypenny20 Feb 3rd 2009 1:56 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7246059)
So, my thyroid's great.

How's yours?


:teeth_smile:

Ooh :confused: no idea so I guess it's fine :lol: Not aware of any the symptoms you guys have although every now and then when I've been rushing around like a blue arsed fly and feel knackered I wonder :blink: You've not updated the blog recently. I'm over seeing you desperate :lol: However, as it's a while since I did mine, I'll let you off.

TiddlyPom Feb 3rd 2009 2:30 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 7246069)
Ooh :confused: no idea so I guess it's fine :lol: Not aware of any the symptoms you guys have although every now and then when I've been rushing around like a blue arsed fly and feel knackered I wonder :blink: You've not updated the blog recently. I'm over seeing you desperate :lol: However, as it's a while since I did mine, I'll let you off.

Desperate? Me? I think not! :D


I'm busy. With work and other stuff but I've got an update to post. I tend to write it out first and upload. This is a good one. You'll like it.

ausi dream Feb 3rd 2009 8:07 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Oh here you all are, it has took me a whole day to find you all.
Couldn't get through on the link that moneypen20 put up for us as i seem to be having problems with computer at the mo.
Also i can not give Karma to any one :(as it says "Sorry you cannot give reputation to this post" and it is the same for every one i try.
Any body else having problems with this.

Just had a thought, could some one send me some Karma to see if i can receive it. Thank you.

midgetjan Feb 3rd 2009 8:50 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
I've given you some karma ausi dream. Hope it worked.

Can't believe I spent hours on Monday reading the whole thyroid thread and then you closed it ......lol

I'm glad I read it though. It was very informative.

Kooky. Feb 3rd 2009 9:16 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Well it's referenced at the beginning of this thread and also in Tiddly's signature so we shouldn't lose it. Cheers MP. :)

OK this one needs some gory details, TMI - shall I start? Currently half way through a 24 stint of weeing in a bottle. :rofl: Getting my bloods done tomorrow; hope the results are better than my recent mammogram and bone density scan. :rolleyes:

TiddlyPom Feb 4th 2009 10:42 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7246909)
Well it's referenced at the beginning of this thread and also in Tiddly's signature so we shouldn't lose it. Cheers MP. :)

OK this one needs some gory details, TMI - shall I start? Currently half way through a 24 stint of weeing in a bottle. :rofl: Getting my bloods done tomorrow; hope the results are better than my recent mammogram and bone density scan. :rolleyes:

The new one is in my sig actually... :lol:

Have I got room for both? Um ...

Seasider, good luck with those tests... At least the 4 hr weeing thing is more accurate.

Let us know how it goes. Do I take it your bone density etc wasn't good? :(

ausi dream Feb 5th 2009 5:54 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by midgetjan (Post 7246840)
I've given you some karma ausi dream. Hope it worked.

Can't believe I spent hours on Monday reading the whole thyroid thread and then you closed it ......lol

I'm glad I read it though. It was very informative.

Hi midgetjan. Thank you very much for the Karma, very much needed at the mo. Will send you some back.
How are you?

ausi dream Feb 5th 2009 6:01 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Seasider thinks this thread should have some gory details,well here are mine.

Spent half a day at the hospital with needles in and blood tests being taken to find out why unwell. Which ended up being told to go straight to my doctors to be referred for further blood tests, which meant going back to the hospital on the Tuesday morning as i had to farst for them.
So i am now waiting to see what the results will be.

holly30 Feb 5th 2009 8:08 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 7246069)
Ooh :confused: no idea so I guess it's fine :lol: Not aware of any the symptoms you guys have although every now and then when I've been rushing around like a blue arsed fly and feel knackered I wonder :blink: You've not updated the blog recently. I'm over seeing you desperate :lol: However, as it's a while since I did mine, I'll let you off.

Hi,
I just found this thread today i think it is brill!!!
I don't have a thyroid had an op in 2006 to remove the left side then they removed the rest last year....thought i would let you guys know that i'm out here, with no tyhroid....lol....
oh and by the way i'm feeling good!

ausi dream Feb 5th 2009 9:13 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by holly30 (Post 7253595)
Hi,
I just found this thread today i think it is brill!!!
I don't have a thyroid had an op in 2006 to remove the left side then they removed the rest last year....thought i would let you guys know that i'm out here, with no tyhroid....lol....
oh and by the way i'm feeling good!

Hello Holly30, you are so brave, glad to hear you are feeling well.:)

Kooky. Feb 5th 2009 9:18 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Hi Holly, welcome to our little thyroid world :)

ausi, I hope you get some answers soon and can concentrate on getting well again.

I had my bloods done yesterday and learned the hard way - if you're fasting, eat your dinner later than 6pm and then get out of the door well before 11am, especially in 30+ degrees. Man, was so dizzy by the time I'd finished. :blink: Stupid girl.

ausi dream Feb 5th 2009 9:34 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7253901)
Hi Holly, welcome to our little thyroid world :)

ausi, I hope you get some answers soon and can concentrate on getting well again.

I had my bloods done yesterday and learned the hard way - if you're fasting, eat your dinner later than 6pm and then get out of the door well before 11am, especially in 30+ degrees. Man, was so dizzy by the time I'd finished. :blink: Stupid girl.

I ate my tea by seven thirty and got to the hospital by eight next morning as they said leave twelve hours with out any thing apart from sips of water.

But then i spent another two hours at the hospital with them trying to get any blood out as i suffer from Raynaud's and my body was cold and they found it hard to get the blood out.

Kooky. Feb 5th 2009 9:46 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
When I was at my most unwell they struggled to get mine, too. It puzzled me as I'd always been a good bleeder but it happened too often and in too many clinics to be the nurses' incompetence. I often ended up with it coming out of my hand which can be painful.

This lasted a couple of years but seems to be fine again now. :confused:

holly30 Feb 5th 2009 9:47 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7253901)
Hi Holly, welcome to our little thyroid world :)

ausi, I hope you get some answers soon and can concentrate on getting well again.

I had my bloods done yesterday and learned the hard way - if you're fasting, eat your dinner later than 6pm and then get out of the door well before 11am, especially in 30+ degrees. Man, was so dizzy by the time I'd finished. :blink: Stupid girl.

Hi,
Its nice to know theres people in the same boat in oz.

TiddlyPom Feb 5th 2009 9:57 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7253901)
Hi Holly, welcome to our little thyroid world :)

ausi, I hope you get some answers soon and can concentrate on getting well again.

I had my bloods done yesterday and learned the hard way - if you're fasting, eat your dinner later than 6pm and then get out of the door well before 11am, especially in 30+ degrees. Man, was so dizzy by the time I'd finished. :blink: Stupid girl.

Doh! Not good!

Hi Holly. Glad you're feeling good... It is possible, for sure :-)

TiddlyPom Feb 10th 2009 11:24 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
How are you all doing folks?

It's cold in the mts ...cold and wet and I'm glad of it because after weeks of hot, dry weather, and 38 degrees of heat plus wind, it's a miracle we haven't had a bush fire.

PaulandNic Feb 10th 2009 7:17 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7272759)
How are you all doing folks?

Well Nic's on day 2 of the pig one (sorry, I know a crap term, but you know what I mean ... :)) She's lost absolutely no weight since goin on Thyroxine, altho DID stop gaining! ... and has been on it long enough now to have gave a good go.

Also, does anyone know if the pig will sort out hair loss? Nic reckons the dodgy thyroid is to blame for it. She doesn't lose heaps, but more falls out than used to.

Any help appreciated ... :)

MarkMC Feb 10th 2009 9:27 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 7273704)
Also, does anyone know if the pig will sort out hair loss? Nic reckons the dodgy thyroid is to blame for it. She doesn't lose heaps, but more falls out than used to.

Kerry's hair is a lot better since starting the pig one....

PaulandNic Feb 10th 2009 10:18 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by MarkMC (Post 7274011)
Kerry's hair is a lot better since starting the pig one....

Sounding good! ... :thumbup:

Kooky. Feb 10th 2009 10:21 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Yep, well-known symptom, along with painfully dry skin.

PaulandNic Feb 10th 2009 10:27 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Oh and can anyone help with these questions from Nic.

Can you take the pig at night? The only instructions she has are that it has to be taken in the morn. Just wondering if this is adhered to by all ?!? Reason being she takes other meds in the morn and wants to do the thyroid one like the other (Thyroxine)

Which leads on to the other query.

With the Thyroxine she couldn't eat either side of taking it. 1 hour this way, 2 the other, or to that effect, but there's been no mention of any kind of regime for the ole pig one ... :confused:

Can it be taken on it's own, last thing at night with a glass of water I guess is my overall question?

Cheers

Kooky. Feb 10th 2009 11:33 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Same deal as the Thyroxine, Paul. Her doctor should have told her that (the one used by most of the Sydney ladies dishes out a handout).

I take mine just before bed too. Not sure if I'm supposed to but I have so much else to take I have to fit it in somehow.

donna Feb 11th 2009 8:44 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7274327)
Same deal as the Thyroxine, Paul. Her doctor should have told her that (the one used by most of the Sydney ladies dishes out a handout).

I take mine just before bed too. Not sure if I'm supposed to but I have so much else to take I have to fit it in somehow.

Oh,i didnt know that ,iv'e never been told not to have food with mine:eek:
Are you able to scan that leaflet for me Seasider.:)
And yes Paul the hairloss does stop,although if im deficient in anything i start losing hair again.
Hope she does well on it.
Donna

MarkMC Feb 11th 2009 8:58 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Well Dr B told me to take mine around 8:30 every morning and an hour before food and never take them with fruit juice or coffee only water. Thats what is on the bottle of tablets as well. Hope that helps a bit.
Just to add I take 480mg of the natural thryroid (the pig one) a day now.


Kerry

Kooky. Feb 11th 2009 9:30 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Ok I just dug out the paper and it does say before breakfast so I must have read the bit about the time period after food elsewhere. I take mine at night so that I don't take it right after food, as I take some other scary stuff on a morning that I can't take near food, and I have to fit a lot of calcium into my schedule (osteoporosis).

I read that you should take it either half an hour before food or at least two hours after, but Dr B just says:

It has to be taken 25 minutes before breakfast with a glass of water. Avoid taking iron supplements and calcium as well as orange juice with the capsule, as they impair absorption.

(I can scan the handout later from my other comp if anybody wants it, but it includes info about experimenting with and increasing the dosage, and I'd hate it to contradict anything your own doctor has told you. Let me know if you'd still like it.)

Kooky. Feb 11th 2009 9:32 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Wow, Kerry - 480mg? I take 60mg; I went shaky on 90.

donna Feb 11th 2009 9:55 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7276325)
Ok I just dug out the paper and it does say before breakfast so I must have read the bit about the time period after food elsewhere. I take mine at night so that I don't take it right after food, as I take some other scary stuff on a morning that I can't take near food, and I have to fit a lot of calcium into my schedule (osteoporosis).

I read that you should take it either half an hour before food or at least two hours after, but Dr B just says:

It has to be taken 25 minutes before breakfast with a glass of water. Avoid taking iron supplements and calcium as well as orange juice with the capsule, as they impair absorption.

(I can scan the handout later from my other comp if anybody wants it, but it includes info about experimenting with and increasing the dosage, and I'd hate it to contradict anything your own doctor has told you. Let me know if you'd still like it.)


Yep ,it would be good if you could scan it 4 me.
cheers Donna

MarkMC Feb 11th 2009 10:06 am

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7276329)
Wow, Kerry - 480mg? I take 60mg; I went shaky on 90.

It is alot but Dr B said I would level out on around 500mg a day so she was right. I feel so much better and my skin and hair are back to a good condition again. My weight is finally starting to drop off which I am very pleased about.
Dr B has been my lifesaver and i am so glad she squeezed me in for an appointment to see her.

TiddlyPom Feb 11th 2009 12:24 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Questions from Nic.

Can you take the pig at night? The only instructions she has are that it has to be taken in the morn. Just wondering if this is adhered to by all ?!? Reason being she takes other meds in the morn and wants to do the thyroid one like the other (Thyroxine)



T3, the piggy stuff, is short acting. Unlike the T4 (thyroxine) she's been taking, it doesn't need to convert in the cells to T3. It already IS T3 (though there's a small amount of T4 in the piggy stuff too, but mainly it's T3). Therefore, if you take it at night, it's straight into the cells and it will probably keep you pretty restless all night. It'll boost your thyroid and keep you awake. It should really only be taken in the morning before food, only with water. It should be straight into cells within about 20 mins. You need the energy from it during the day. Some people split their dose and take half in the morning and half at about 3pm. Or they take two full doses per day, morning and afternoon. Ideally, you don't want your body kicking up in the middle of the night because you need your sleep. You're taking T3 because of the 'direct to cell' effect. It means there's little or no conversion for your body. It's like an intravenous drip of good stuff straight to your cells.



With the Thyroxine she couldn't eat either side of taking it. 1 hour this way, 2 the other, or to that effect, but there's been no mention of any kind of regime for the ole pig one ... :confused:


No food half an hour to an hour after taking it. It depends on your digestion really but def over half an hour. Keep it by the bed, take it on waking, get in the shower, get dressed - by the time you've done all that, you can eat. Easy.


Can it be taken on it's own, last thing at night with a glass of water I guess is my overall question?

See my initial answer.
:
)

TiddlyPom Feb 11th 2009 12:36 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by MarkMC (Post 7276217)
Well Dr B told me to take mine around 8:30 every morning and an hour before food and never take them with fruit juice or coffee only water. Thats what is on the bottle of tablets as well. Hope that helps a bit.
Just to add I take 480mg of the natural thryroid (the pig one) a day now.


Kerry


Prob 480mcg?

TiddlyPom Feb 11th 2009 12:40 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by donna (Post 7276173)
Oh,i didnt know that ,iv'e never been told not to have food with mine:eek:


:eek::eek::eek:


No food!

donna Feb 11th 2009 1:00 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7276743)
:eek::eek::eek:


No food!

Bugger!

Kooky. Feb 11th 2009 1:16 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 
Hmm, must check with Dr B when I go for my results. Doesn't keep me awake but I get the theory.

I don't think I'm anywhere near as bad as a lot of you ladies though. TBH I'd rather not take any, but I can't seem to get the herbal stuff I got in Singapore.

I've stopped the cortisol. Something was giving me terrible headaches and I'm trying to work out what. My skin is pretty bad too - never had spots as a teenager, got them in my forties instead. :lol:

TiddlyPom Feb 11th 2009 1:22 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by donna (Post 7276778)
Bugger!

:lol:

Take it on waking and then have breakfast half an hour later. Works for me. :-)

PaulandNic Feb 11th 2009 1:26 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7276713)
[B][Keep it by the bed

Ahhh, so no 'keep in the fridge' like Thyroxine, that'll make life easier ... :)

I'll let her know, thank you ... :)

TiddlyPom Feb 11th 2009 1:42 pm

Re: Thyroid Thread - Part Deux
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 7276818)
Ahhh, so no 'keep in the fridge' like Thyroxine, that'll make life easier ... :)

I'll let her know, thank you ... :)

Not important to keep in fridge.

Instructions with keeping T4 in fridge extremely dodgy anyway... most doctors find the instructions confusing!!!
Something along the lines of 'Store in fridge before opening, then when opened, keep out of fridge'.
Makes no sense whatsoever. :lol:


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