Strike possible at Aus Post
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Re: Strike possible at Aus Post
Granted, there's no way I'd want to be a postie around my way but so many of the 'estates' are very similar to UK estates and the houses close to the road, just wondered how it all started but I guess in the old days everyone was spread out more. Only in the last 20 odd years that these UK type areas have popped up.
#17
Re: Strike possible at Aus Post
No I think it's very much a UK thing. Don't mind having the box at the end of the drive, I just kick a kid out of the car on the way in every day. However if they're not about and I have to do it, it's a pain in the neck
#18
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This dispute has been going on for 2.5 years since the last EBA 7 agreement.... It was never signed off on... Although Aus Post did pay us rises in the interim... The Union never ever signed off in agreement and basically didnt care about these rises until the major sticking point of arbtration was sorted. I guess Apost didnt want to be lumbered with 2.5 years or more of backpay.
If your company decided they only needed you 30hours PW starting from next month and the only avenue you had to at least query that decision without the change being implemented immediately (even if a judicial process 2 years down the track stated it was wrong) was taken away wouldn't you kick up ?
With a little bit of luck, if and when the strike is voted for Apost, will keep the current arbitration system in place for the next 4 years.... I would imagine that 15pct or more of current fulltimers would have left by then, leaving them in a position to be able to implement the Judical system instead at the next EBA
This could be a big one.
What it comes down to is mail volumes really are dropping, however on the last 2 years figures there is no way they can justify dropping fulltimers.... However future projections state they will be able to drop some. Basically they want to put the cart before the horse, current workers want any decision based on the previous years figures.
Theres an election next year so no way will the figures drop.
If your company decided they only needed you 30hours PW starting from next month and the only avenue you had to at least query that decision without the change being implemented immediately (even if a judicial process 2 years down the track stated it was wrong) was taken away wouldn't you kick up ?
With a little bit of luck, if and when the strike is voted for Apost, will keep the current arbitration system in place for the next 4 years.... I would imagine that 15pct or more of current fulltimers would have left by then, leaving them in a position to be able to implement the Judical system instead at the next EBA
This could be a big one.
What it comes down to is mail volumes really are dropping, however on the last 2 years figures there is no way they can justify dropping fulltimers.... However future projections state they will be able to drop some. Basically they want to put the cart before the horse, current workers want any decision based on the previous years figures.
Theres an election next year so no way will the figures drop.
Last edited by ozzieeagle; Nov 25th 2009 at 3:43 am.
#19
Re: Strike possible at Aus Post
2.45 hours set up time... 35 minutes (average) to and from depotl.... 4.15 hours delivery = 7.35 approx, a full days work in post on average. BTW OT is paid at least 2.5 days per week on average over the year.... and they are talking about getting rid of fulltimers !!
Another point... if your not sick of this already... the average age of a fulltimer is now around 47 years, as Apost havent taken on any new entries to Apost Delivery or Transport Fulltime in over 10 years. Last fulltimer we had was a lady who although employed as a parttimer worked fulltime for most of that 10 years and managed to sneak under the radar by working fulltime hours for one full year, which automatically gives you a fulltime position.... Generally the managers will give a parttimer less hours for one week after 9 months or so.... so as to start the clock ticking again.
Another point... OT is mandatory for parttimers and fulltimers at Auspost.
Last edited by ozzieeagle; Nov 25th 2009 at 4:05 am.
#20
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Here I get my mail at 1pm, so not exactly an annoying time to be disturbed. I was actually sitting at my PC looking out the window when the postie turned up on his motorbike (oh to have had a motorbike in my time as a postie), and he spent about 3 seconds putting mail into the mailbox and drove off.
I've gone down to the mailbox, only to find a pink slip in it saying they tried to deliver a package but I wasn't there. I was watching him! He must pre-write the pink slips before he goes out and adds them to the mail.
I've had a word with the postmaster at the local Post office before, but he insists the postie will toot his horn, wait for a few seconds, and if no-one comes out, they'll write the pink slip.
I'll be telling him tomorrow when I pick the package that that is bollox. Again.
JTL
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I worked as a part-time postie in the UK for 4 years, so I know exactly how much they hate registered mail. I still remember the look of hatred I'd get from people when I woke them up at 6am to sign for it. But that was because we did our morning deliveries between 5:30am and 10am.
Here I get my mail at 1pm, so not exactly an annoying time to be disturbed. I was actually sitting at my PC looking out the window when the postie turned up on his motorbike (oh to have had a motorbike in my time as a postie), and he spent about 3 seconds putting mail into the mailbox and drove off.
I've gone down to the mailbox, only to find a pink slip in it saying they tried to deliver a package but I wasn't there. I was watching him! He must pre-write the pink slips before he goes out and adds them to the mail.
I've had a word with the postmaster at the local Post office before, but he insists the postie will toot his horn, wait for a few seconds, and if no-one comes out, they'll write the pink slip.
I'll be telling him tomorrow when I pick the package that that is bollox. Again.
JTL
Here I get my mail at 1pm, so not exactly an annoying time to be disturbed. I was actually sitting at my PC looking out the window when the postie turned up on his motorbike (oh to have had a motorbike in my time as a postie), and he spent about 3 seconds putting mail into the mailbox and drove off.
I've gone down to the mailbox, only to find a pink slip in it saying they tried to deliver a package but I wasn't there. I was watching him! He must pre-write the pink slips before he goes out and adds them to the mail.
I've had a word with the postmaster at the local Post office before, but he insists the postie will toot his horn, wait for a few seconds, and if no-one comes out, they'll write the pink slip.
I'll be telling him tomorrow when I pick the package that that is bollox. Again.
JTL
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Ah well, I have finally lost patience and am off to pay AUs Post the princely sum of $75 p a for the privilege of not having my mail stolen Oh and apparently a key is $7 on top, the $75 is only for the box
#23
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Used to have a similar thing at my last house. The psotman would actually stand by the mailbox writing out the Reg Post slip,without knocking on the door. If I happened to see him I would go out and ask for the package, but usually I would miss him and have to wait till the next day, when the Post Ofice would say "well, if you'd have been at home you could've had it yesterday." They refused to admit that the postman just didn't knock the door, but wrote a slip and drove off.
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