Should OZ ban the Burka
#301
If you do a search for "Islam by country" you can get a breakdown of Muslim population by country.
These countries have the largest muslim populations, making up just over 80% of the world's 1.5 bn muslim population.
Indonesia 202,867,000
Pakistan 174,082,000
India 160,945,000
Bangladesh 145,312,000
Egypt 78,513,000
Nigeria 78,056,000
Iran 73,777,000
Turkey 73,619,000
Algeria 34,199,000
Morocco 31,993,000
Iraq 30,428,000
Sudan 30,121,000
Afghanistan 28,072,000
Ethiopia 28,063,000
Uzbekistan 26,469,000
Saudi Arabia 24,949,000
Yemen 23,363,000
China 21,667,000
Syria 20,196,000
These countries have the largest muslim populations, making up just over 80% of the world's 1.5 bn muslim population.
Indonesia 202,867,000
Pakistan 174,082,000
India 160,945,000
Bangladesh 145,312,000
Egypt 78,513,000
Nigeria 78,056,000
Iran 73,777,000
Turkey 73,619,000
Algeria 34,199,000
Morocco 31,993,000
Iraq 30,428,000
Sudan 30,121,000
Afghanistan 28,072,000
Ethiopia 28,063,000
Uzbekistan 26,469,000
Saudi Arabia 24,949,000
Yemen 23,363,000
China 21,667,000
Syria 20,196,000
the volume of Muslims in India and Pakistan is not much different yet I always thought there were far more Muslims in Pakistan than India

That Indonesia has the most Muslims - above Pakistan

That Iraq and Afghanistan have so few Muslims yet these are the places you hear from mostly in terms of contravention of human rights
What would be interesting is to understand of the above, which countries are the most extremist Muslim countries.
yep, proportionatly there is less chance of a Muslim being on the forum
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What's really surprising is
the volume of Muslims in India (13.4%) and Pakistan is not much different yet I always thought there were far more Muslims in Pakistan (96.3%) than India
That Indonesia (88.2%) has the most Muslims - above Pakistan
That Iraq (99%) and Afghanistan (99.7%) have so few Muslims yet these are the places you hear from mostly in terms of contravention of human rights
What would be interesting is to understand of the above, which countries are the most extremist Muslim countries.
yep, proportionatly there is less chance of a Muslim being on the forum
the volume of Muslims in India (13.4%) and Pakistan is not much different yet I always thought there were far more Muslims in Pakistan (96.3%) than India

That Indonesia (88.2%) has the most Muslims - above Pakistan

That Iraq (99%) and Afghanistan (99.7%) have so few Muslims yet these are the places you hear from mostly in terms of contravention of human rights
What would be interesting is to understand of the above, which countries are the most extremist Muslim countries.
yep, proportionatly there is less chance of a Muslim being on the forum
#303

Muslims in India = 13.4% of total population
Muslims in Pakistan = 96.3% of total population
Muslims in Indonesia = 88.2% of total population
Muslims in Iraq = 99% of total population
Muslims in Afghanistan = 99.7% of total population
What would be interesting is to understand of the above, which countries are the most extremist Muslim countries in terms of adopting the burqa?
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Judging from what I see on there I would guess it's over 50% Muslim.
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hmm.. tricky question... I've got a very limited understanding on the different types of dress, let alone what countries wear them. I know that in Afghanistan they wear a "stricter" version of the burka.
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I agree with Creature, based on postings in there over the last few months I'd say 50% would be a conservative estimate actually.
While I appreciate you can't always tell from posts, our Immigration forum has suffered considerably in the last few months from an exodus of established posters going to other forums, partly due to the increase in immigration queries on here from people from a Muslim background. We have several threads containing strings of posts praising Allah and thanking him for visa grants, and I've lost count of the number of posts I've removed due to people communicating in various Arabic and other non-western languages.
Cultural differences mean that people from places like Pakistan, India, Arabic nations expect instant answers, keep asking if they don't get the instant answers, and are often abrupt (or what we view as rude) in their requests and replies. They pester agents for free info - which has led to most of them cutting their posts dramatically, and there is also a constant insistence that people should reveal all their personal details "where are you from, tell me all the small details of your timeline etc" - which goes against the British reserve against sharing details like that. This has led eventually to a huge downturn in queries from people looking to migrate from the UK, and even from other parts of Europe.
While I appreciate you can't always tell from posts, our Immigration forum has suffered considerably in the last few months from an exodus of established posters going to other forums, partly due to the increase in immigration queries on here from people from a Muslim background. We have several threads containing strings of posts praising Allah and thanking him for visa grants, and I've lost count of the number of posts I've removed due to people communicating in various Arabic and other non-western languages.
Cultural differences mean that people from places like Pakistan, India, Arabic nations expect instant answers, keep asking if they don't get the instant answers, and are often abrupt (or what we view as rude) in their requests and replies. They pester agents for free info - which has led to most of them cutting their posts dramatically, and there is also a constant insistence that people should reveal all their personal details "where are you from, tell me all the small details of your timeline etc" - which goes against the British reserve against sharing details like that. This has led eventually to a huge downturn in queries from people looking to migrate from the UK, and even from other parts of Europe.
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So that raises the question - if the burqa were to be banned, and these women could not wear it in public - would they even be allowed to leave the house? By banning the wearing of the burqa in public, could the govt actually be condemning women to a life of virtual house arrest?
#310
Can't help wondering - as many people have posted, the women wearing the burqa often do so because their husband demands it (regardless of their own feelings), and their beliefs are such that they do what their husband says, they wouldn't dream of doing otherwise.
So that raises the question - if the burqa were to be banned, and these women could not wear it in public - would they even be allowed to leave the house? By banning the wearing of the burqa in public, could the govt actually be condemning women to a life of virtual house arrest?
So that raises the question - if the burqa were to be banned, and these women could not wear it in public - would they even be allowed to leave the house? By banning the wearing of the burqa in public, could the govt actually be condemning women to a life of virtual house arrest?
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I agree with Creature, based on postings in there over the last few months I'd say 50% would be a conservative estimate actually.
While I appreciate you can't always tell from posts, our Immigration forum has suffered considerably in the last few months from an exodus of established posters going to other forums, partly due to the increase in immigration queries on here from people from a Muslim background. We have several threads containing strings of posts praising Allah and thanking him for visa grants, and I've lost count of the number of posts I've removed due to people communicating in various Arabic and other non-western languages.
Cultural differences mean that people from places like Pakistan, India, Arabic nations expect instant answers, keep asking if they don't get the instant answers, and are often abrupt (or what we view as rude) in their requests and replies. They pester agents for free info - which has led to most of them cutting their posts dramatically, and there is also a constant insistence that people should reveal all their personal details "where are you from, tell me all the small details of your timeline etc" - which goes against the British reserve against sharing details like that. This has led eventually to a huge downturn in queries from people looking to migrate from the UK, and even from other parts of Europe.
While I appreciate you can't always tell from posts, our Immigration forum has suffered considerably in the last few months from an exodus of established posters going to other forums, partly due to the increase in immigration queries on here from people from a Muslim background. We have several threads containing strings of posts praising Allah and thanking him for visa grants, and I've lost count of the number of posts I've removed due to people communicating in various Arabic and other non-western languages.
Cultural differences mean that people from places like Pakistan, India, Arabic nations expect instant answers, keep asking if they don't get the instant answers, and are often abrupt (or what we view as rude) in their requests and replies. They pester agents for free info - which has led to most of them cutting their posts dramatically, and there is also a constant insistence that people should reveal all their personal details "where are you from, tell me all the small details of your timeline etc" - which goes against the British reserve against sharing details like that. This has led eventually to a huge downturn in queries from people looking to migrate from the UK, and even from other parts of Europe.
#313
What's really surprising is
the volume of Muslims in India and Pakistan is not much different yet I always thought there were far more Muslims in Pakistan than India
That Indonesia has the most Muslims - above Pakistan
That Iraq and Afghanistan have so few Muslims yet these are the places you hear from mostly in terms of contravention of human rights
What would be interesting is to understand of the above, which countries are the most extremist Muslim countries.
yep, proportionatly there is less chance of a Muslim being on the forum
the volume of Muslims in India and Pakistan is not much different yet I always thought there were far more Muslims in Pakistan than India

That Indonesia has the most Muslims - above Pakistan

That Iraq and Afghanistan have so few Muslims yet these are the places you hear from mostly in terms of contravention of human rights
What would be interesting is to understand of the above, which countries are the most extremist Muslim countries.
yep, proportionatly there is less chance of a Muslim being on the forum
#314

Yes, you can help mate.
We are discussing whether there should be a ban on anyone wearing the burqa in Aus. What's your views on this please mate?
#315
Burqa ban will directly affect only a handful of the minority, but it'll scare the rest of us because we'll be thinking 'what next'?
If you're trying to free someone from supposed oppression, handing a ban isn't the answer. Raising social awareness would serve them better IMHO. Educating women about their options in Australia regarding any social violence/oppression would be more helpful for them.
It's probably worth mentioning that, there seems to be a general consensus here that Muslim male oppress their female family members, which is a gross generalization. It's not what I've seen in my 26 years at home and 2 years here. We need to remember that it's only a news when something goes wrong and if our opinion is only a sum of these wrongs, then at the end of the day we'll have a wrong picture.



