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ABCDiamond Feb 28th 2009 1:28 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 7333513)
A statiscal analysis of why people go back wouldn't go amiss ABCD :thumbup:

There is a big problem with such an analysis, as many of the reasons given for some people returning to the UK are actually the same reasons for wanting to stay in Australia...

The Weather
Some people prefer the UK weather,
Some prefer the Australian weather
Length of Flights for Holidays
Some people complain that it is too far to fly Australia to Europe for a Holiday
Some people complain that it is too far to fly Europe to Asia for a Holiday
The bottom line is that some people prefer the UK, and others prefer Australia.

The problem that I see is, with those who are not prepared to understand another persons preference.
And this often creates 'interesting' threads, as one person ridicules another persons preference, and then some defend their opinions, and then ..., well you know ;)

Anyway, when only 9 out of every 100 return within the first 5 years, I would rather concentrate on the 91 out of every 100 who stay in Australia :D

moneypenny20 Feb 28th 2009 1:32 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7333529)
Anyway, when only 9 out of every 100 return within the first 5 years, I would rather concentrate on the 91 out of every 100 who stay in Australia :D

Ahh, but can we believe those statistics? :sneaky: :lol:

asprilla Feb 28th 2009 4:49 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by Fleaflyfloflum (Post 7332249)
This kind of thing happens in here practically on a daily basis for all sorts of trivial and ridiculous reasons... especially when the alpha males are jockeying for supremecy :rofl::rofl I'm cleverer, smarter, more inelligent and funnier than all of youse, and i have to make sure i get the best post in... then one gets mortally wounded and it spins out of control... a main sport in here dont you think? Happens far less over there.

what a load of garbage.

asprilla Feb 28th 2009 4:54 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by kporte (Post 7333278)
No, I think if someone has comments that are basically racist, they should keep them to themselves.
It never ceases to amaze me the number of times the entire Aussie nation is slated and stereotyped.
If you look at some of the posts and take out the word Australians and replace with Pakistani or Chinese you will see my point.

Also I have seen people come on, talking about moving back and welcomed warmly, only to be turned on when making negative commments about the UK.
I guess the support is only there if you tow the line

Excellent post.

There are several culprits that really need to think long and hard about the nature of their posts on that forum.

edit - Just read bcworld's posts. I would tend to agree with kporte though I do see your point. The opinions in question may perhaps just be viewed as "opinions", but by definition they are still racist.

The Crow Feb 28th 2009 5:47 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7333529)
The problem that I see is, with those who are not prepared to understand another persons preference.
And this often creates 'interesting' threads, as one person ridicules another persons preference, and then some defend their opinions, and then ..., well you know ;)

Sometimes the problem I think is down to choice of location. Many times the key elements those unhappy complain about, are not evident where I live. Many of the things that they miss about the UK, I have here. I'm not sure they believe it and maybe presume that I live in my own little rose-tinted bubble.

I would never go into the MBTTUK forum and mention this...

ABCDiamond Feb 28th 2009 6:00 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by The Crow (Post 7333801)
Sometimes the problem I think is down to choice of location. Many times the key elements those unhappy complain about, are not evident where I live. Many of the things that they miss about the UK, I have here. I'm not sure they believe it and maybe presume that I live in my own little rose-tinted bubble.

Some have presumed the same about me, and told me... :cool:

I definately do not have rose tinted glasses, i've just experienced a lot of life, and found somewhere that I am happy.
And I can't complain about that :thumbsup:

ABCDiamond Feb 28th 2009 6:01 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 7333533)
Ahh, but can we believe those statistics? :sneaky: :lol:

Not really, as they are subject to an error ratio of about 8.79% I think from memory :rofl:

mohogony Feb 28th 2009 8:53 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 
Alot of the unhappy ones seem to be from Perth, don't hear that many from Melbourne or Victoria complaining.

BadgeIsBack Feb 28th 2009 9:57 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by Fleaflyfloflum (Post 7332249)
This kind of thing happens in here practically on a daily basis for all sorts of trivial and ridiculous reasons... especially when the alpha males are jockeying for supremecy :rofl::rofl I'm cleverer, smarter, more inelligent and funnier than all of youse, and i have to make sure i get the best post in... then one gets mortally wounded and it spins out of control... a main sport in here dont you think? Happens far less over there.

One of the criticisms I have of BE is that unlike many other forums, people forget it is a discussion forum and therefore arguments are based on some sort of intellectual belief or stance. People seem to forget that you can question someone's intellectual viewpoint, or even credentials, without attacking them personally. In academia it is an artform of itself and leads to a bit of riposte. And of course, it's fun.

I would agree with you that the MTBUK forum is generally much more pedestrian - and very UK suburban. It sometimes comes over as a bunch of middle-aged checkout chicks at a supermarket talking about their next night out. There is less of a range of opinion there - and less conflict because the forum is seen as a closed shop and anyone vaguely controversial gets reminded it is not their forum. Until someone starts a "lets talk about nation x" and then all the anger comes out....to continue the analogy - all the checkout chicks then put the knives in on the poor girl in BWS....I've often said that to maintain the same standard we need a 'Happy in Australia forum' as the Barbie is obviously too inclusive(!) - the irony!

Its just occured to me that perhaps you come across as an 'alpha' female at times. You tell us you don't give a damn and that you are entitled to your opinion, which curiously, I don't think has ever been in dispute. Of course, if you are not sensitive then all the alpha stuff is just academic.


Originally Posted by MartinLuther (Post 7332779)
I've noticed Australia turns people into either farmers or psychologists. Bizarre :blink:

:) I actually think migration is a privilege and broadens the mind significantly, especially if Australia is not the first and only place lived in. Migration attracts a thinking (and non-thinking) individual. Practically, speaking for myself, I have more time to pursue other interests as I have gained about 10 years financially.

Pollyana Feb 28th 2009 10:34 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 
Its quite interesting to read all the other forums really, as its not just the UK forum that has a different character. The French forum is very sedate most of the time, the American forum has a completely different sense of humour and their Immigration forum is very forthright, to name but a couple of examples.
All the forums on here seem to fit the majority of the people that use them, and its fascinating to go from one to the other and see the differences - and the similarities between them. If you haven't ventured further than the Aussie ones, give some of the others a read :)

Hutch Feb 28th 2009 11:46 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 
Some tips for anyone considering venturing into the doom-and-gloom room:
1) Don't use the word 'failed'. Ever. Not even if you're talking about the fact that you didn't pass your driving test.
2) Imagine you have an aunt, who's going through the menopause, while dealing with the after-effects of a recent crack addiction and is into the third week of a bout of constipation - treat the members of that forum as if you were sitting across a card table from such a person.
3) The UK is not Swindon on a wet Monday morning in January, it is the Lake District on a gloriously warm Sunday morning in June.
4) Christmas is not six months of intensive marketing, the Snowman on Channel 4, a box set of bath salts, a family row and wanking over the adverts in the holiday supplement inside the Radio Times. Dear me no, Christmas is sleigh rides in the snow, carollers with perfect voices and cheery ruddy faced cheeks, an adoring family gathering (with Tiny Tim as guest of honour) and goodwill and harmony to all men. And god bless us one and all. And 'you boy - go to the poulterers and buy me that prize winning turkey'.
5) You're wrong.

elfman Mar 1st 2009 6:25 am

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 7334240)
All the forums on here seem to fit the majority of the people that use them, and its fascinating to go from one to the other and see the differences - and the similarities between them. If you haven't ventured further than the Aussie ones, give some of the others a read :)

If you're bored, start a thread in the Africa forum saying you've been offered a job in Johannesburg, you're thinking of moving your family there, and ask in innocent tones if the crime situation is really that bad.

Jules Europe Mar 1st 2009 6:40 am

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by Hutch (Post 7334367)
Some tips for anyone considering venturing into the doom-and-gloom room:
1) Don't use the word 'failed'. Ever. Not even if you're talking about the fact that you didn't pass your driving test.
2) Imagine you have an aunt, who's going through the menopause, while dealing with the after-effects of a recent crack addiction and is into the third week of a bout of constipation - treat the members of that forum as if you were sitting across a card table from such a person.
3) The UK is not Swindon on a wet Monday morning in January, it is the Lake District on a gloriously warm Sunday morning in June.
4) Christmas is not six months of intensive marketing, the Snowman on Channel 4, a box set of bath salts, a family row and wanking over the adverts in the holiday supplement inside the Radio Times. Dear me no, Christmas is sleigh rides in the snow, carollers with perfect voices and cheery ruddy faced cheeks, an adoring family gathering (with Tiny Tim as guest of honour) and goodwill and harmony to all men. And god bless us one and all. And 'you boy - go to the poulterers and buy me that prize winning turkey'.
5) You're wrong.

:rofl:heh heh had to laugh at your 5 well summed up points. "Comfortably Numb" is that taken after the Pink Floyd song?

Sherro Mar 1st 2009 6:48 am

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by Hutch (Post 7334367)
Some tips for anyone considering venturing into the doom-and-gloom room:
1) Don't use the word 'failed'. Ever. Not even if you're talking about the fact that you didn't pass your driving test.
2) Imagine you have an aunt, who's going through the menopause, while dealing with the after-effects of a recent crack addiction and is into the third week of a bout of constipation - treat the members of that forum as if you were sitting across a card table from such a person.
3) The UK is not Swindon on a wet Monday morning in January, it is the Lake District on a gloriously warm Sunday morning in June.
4) Christmas is not six months of intensive marketing, the Snowman on Channel 4, a box set of bath salts, a family row and wanking over the adverts in the holiday supplement inside the Radio Times. Dear me no, Christmas is sleigh rides in the snow, carollers with perfect voices and cheery ruddy faced cheeks, an adoring family gathering (with Tiny Tim as guest of honour) and goodwill and harmony to all men. And god bless us one and all. And 'you boy - go to the poulterers and buy me that prize winning turkey'.
5) You're wrong.

ha ha ha classic :thumbsup::thumbsup:

kporte Mar 2nd 2009 11:49 pm

Re: Sensitivity in the MBTUK forum
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 7334162)
....I've often said that to maintain the same standard we need a 'Happy in Australia forum' as the Barbie is obviously too inclusive(!) - the irony!
.

think this would be a good idea:thumbsup:


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