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Re: The Sci-fi thread
BTW...back on topic - some old sci-fi is OK, I guess you can't go past Star Trek or Star Wars...they have their place:D
But now people seem to create programminng that is a pastiche of suburbia, hipsters and sci-fi..I can't relate to it. I look at some programmming and it's about suburban people living possibly in yet another 1st world country...if I want to know about suburban 1st world people I can drive down the road or go to work. (Yes call me cynical!) |
Re: The Sci-fi thread
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 10726274)
That's a majority of BE described right there
For the UK in general too Definitely harsh! The Aussies like their fair share of TV too - Australia was the number one torrenting destination for the recent series of Game of Thrones, and they seem to consume shite like The Biggest Loser, The Voice and The Block at an equally prodigious rate. Not to mention every US crime investigation show.
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 10726596)
Harsh? It does seem sometimes that TV does define people in a way it didn't a generation ago - I don't think we are richer for the increasing content or streams, apart from instant choice. I fear my kids will grow up talking in that sort of TV babble. Who knows. When I was 17 I was jumping out of aeroplanes and doing it for real - the people I knew just wanted to watch it on TV and say it was 'cool'. 'Can you, like, choose the colour of your parachute?' Nowadays I'd rather people go for a run or exercise, instead they want to watch Episode 2, Season 4 (this obsession with owning 'seasons') of some weirdball series that will do nothing for their intellect or tell them anything about their world. Mention to parts of the office (generally it is the IT support/ ops people) that you read the newspaper and am interested in current affairs...not so popular!
I watch very little broadcast TV myself - but I think that since the Sopranos, the quality of TV shows has definitely increased. Many shows have movie like production values, and people want to buy into the experience, so purchase seasons and series of the show. Game of Thrones and recently Battlestar Galactica were good example of this. When you compare it to the stuff we had in the 80s and 90s, there really is no comparison. Better production values give the show a longer lifespan and people want to go back and watch it again, just like a movie. I don't really have a problem with people watching scif-fi and fantasy - I think it helps to develop the imagination, and is also good escapism from the drudgery of every day existence. What I don't really understand is drivel like Coronation Street and Eastenders - The stories are mindlessly banal, and are just watching people in normal, every day circumstances, struggling through life. Where's the entertainment in that? I'd much rather watch a show about the last vestiges of mankind fleeing the Cylon tyranny, and trying to avoid extinction... S |
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 10727725)
Definitely harsh! The Aussies like their fair share of TV too - Australia was the number one torrenting destination for the recent series of Game of Thrones, and they seem to consume shite like The Biggest Loser, The Voice and The Block at an equally prodigious rate. Not to mention every US crime investigation show.
I watch very little broadcast TV myself - but I think that since the Sopranos, the quality of TV shows has definitely increased. Many shows have movie like production values, and people want to buy into the experience, so purchase seasons and series of the show. Game of Thrones and recently Battlestar Galactica were good example of this. When you compare it to the stuff we had in the 80s and 90s, there really is no comparison. Better production values give the show a longer lifespan and people want to go back and watch it again, just like a movie. I don't really have a problem with people watching scif-fi and fantasy - I think it helps to develop the imagination, and is also good escapism from the drudgery of every day existence. What I don't really understand is drivel like Coronation Street and Eastenders - The stories are mindlessly banal, and are just watching people in normal, every day circumstances, struggling through life. Where's the entertainment in that? I'd much rather watch a show about the last vestiges of mankind fleeing the Cylon tyranny, and trying to avoid extinction... When Zulu talks about the UK the same could apply to Australia too. I don't have an issue with sci-fi per se, it's when it's all people do at the expense of other genres. You're right about the drudgery of soaps. UK soaps are particularly drugworthy, a cynic might even wonder whether they are designed to help the masses with their day to day lives...certainly there are uses for them. I know guys on teams at work who have no idea of early 20th century literature, or even modern literature, and look at you in amazement if you tell them you have read John Buchan, or Fitszgerald, Hemingway etc etc They would rather read Book 3 in the Epic Epic Series about orcs, and waifes..and God knows what - and when asked, that is all they are interested in. Once one series is read, another series in another world is then moved on to....these writers must be laughing their way to the bank.. Don't get me wrong Sir...I read Lord of the Rings (probably three times in 30 odd years) and tried Dungeons and Dragons.... when I was 11 - and then moved on. |
Re: The Sci-fi thread
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 10727725)
What I don't really understand is drivel like Coronation Street and Eastenders - The stories are mindlessly banal, and are just watching people in normal, every day circumstances, struggling through life. Where's the entertainment in that?
Honestly, wouldn't it be more real world to have Albert Square levelled and a Tescos store built on the site? Two birds, one stone. Where is the character that says "I'm sick of this run down, no hope, murder capital of the UK - I'm out of this dump" ? And as for Coronation Street - why are the houses boarded up and up for sale for £1 down, like the real houses in Salford? |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 10727858)
I prefer SF and Fantasy because it's more realistic than soap operas.
Honestly, wouldn't it be more real world to have Albert Square levelled and a Tescos store built on the site? Two birds, one stone. Where is the character that says "I'm sick of this run down, no hope, murder capital of the UK - I'm out of this dump" ? And as for Coronation Street - why are the houses boarded up and up for sale for £1 down, like the real houses in Salford? |
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We like our Sci-Fi here, our fantasy and our American crime dramas:D We don't watch soaps, or reality TV, although I do like Strictly:o and property porn is our guilty pleasure;)
For me, TV is about pure escapism. Sometimes I like to watch something that requires a degree of concentration, such as Game of Thrones, but then I like to watch something relatively light and easy to watch, like New Tricks, or NCIS. |
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 10727868)
Fantasy and Real life: they could combine Game of Thrones - there are compelling reasons to watch that programme
People have been trying to work out which character is which politician. |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 10728237)
I take it people have seen this :
http://youtube.com/watch?v=i0uviXz7pNE People have been trying to work out which character is which politician. |
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Originally Posted by rasen78
(Post 10728219)
We like our Sci-Fi here, our fantasy and our American crime dramas:D We don't watch soaps, or reality TV, although I do like Strictly:o and property porn is our guilty pleasure;)
For me, TV is about pure escapism. Sometimes I like to watch something that requires a degree of concentration, such as Game of Thrones, but then I like to watch something relatively light and easy to watch, like New Tricks, or NCIS. |
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Love GOT - read the books first, but I think it has been dramatized really well: I hate shows that take too many liberties with the original book. I am a Trekkie fan- the original one, but not the hundreds of spin-offs. I read a lot of SF: it is nice to escape into a fantasy world, and my sister writes SF books.
I also have to admit to watching The Biggest Loser from time to time - I find the psychology of the latest parent/child one interesting, and watching how far some of them have come from initial audition tape to finale was also interesting. I hope they do a follow-up one year on so you can see who has stuck to the diets, and who hasn't. I like to sit and eat fattening stuff whilst watching('cos I'm perverse like that) - but it has motivated me to get off my small behind and try to get fitter before I end up lardy. British soaps- no thank you- give them a very wide berth. Ditto generic US cop shows. I won't watch the US version of Sherlock with plastic mean faced Lucy Liu, although OH does. I do watch the Following however, as again the psychology behind it was interesting, although for me, it is descending into the formulaic mode now, so I may give up on it. I too watch lots of property shows - particularly Selling Houses Australia, as it makes me feel a little better about my own dump!! |
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 10728375)
Game of Thrones - the Charles Dance character. I couldn't understand a effing word he said...lol.
I find I have to go to the Wikipedia episode guide after the show to find out what the f**k just happened. |
Re: The Sci-fi thread
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 10729650)
I can't follow Game of Thrones at all, most of the characters look the same to me and apparently it helps to look at the map during the opening idents which I never do.
I find I have to go to the Wikipedia episode guide after the show to find out what the f**k just happened. Same for me - too f**king confusing. Offset somewhat by the ultra-violence and loads of hot women getting their girls out |
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 10729656)
Same for me - too f**king confusing. Offset somewhat by the ultra-violence and loads of hot women getting their girls out
Spoiler:
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Originally Posted by renth
(Post 10729650)
I can't follow Game of Thrones at all, most of the characters look the same to me and apparently it helps to look at the map during the opening idents which I never do.
Frankly you aren't going to come across a cast of that size that look as dissimilar. That, and the proper english spoken, come from the fact that it's majorly a British/european cast (as opposed to the usual american bimbos). The map helps both to orientate you to where things are, and also which cities are currently involved in the story.
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 10729650)
I find I have to go to the Wikipedia episode guide after the show to find out what the f**k just happened.
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 10729682)
You think they look the same?
The map helps both to orientate you to where things are, and also which cities are currently involved in the story. You never struck me as a hard-of-thinking type. Pay attention and its quite simples. "...Viewers also have to keep track of 44 other characters, according to HBO's website, and follow the storylines relating to past instances of incest, beheadings, betrayals, allegiances, and dragon births. Has the show gotten too complex for its own good? " http://theweek.com/article/index/226...cated-to-enjoy |
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Originally Posted by renth
(Post 10729788)
The map changes? How many Robs are there? they should wear numbers so people like me can keep track. I'm not the only one who finds it confusing:
"...Viewers also have to keep track of 44 other characters, according to HBO's website, and follow the storylines relating to past instances of incest, beheadings, betrayals, allegiances, and dragon births. Has the show gotten too complex for its own good? " http://theweek.com/article/index/226...cated-to-enjoy I don't find it too complex, but then I have a better attention span than most. It comes as little surprise that your average American struggles to keep track, however... |
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Originally Posted by renth
(Post 10729788)
The map changes? How many Robs are there? they should wear numbers so people like me can keep track. I'm not the only one who finds it confusing:
There's one Robb (Stark) and there was the King Robert Baratheon in the first series. IIRC that's the sum total of 'Robs' you've seen.
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 10729788)
"...Viewers also have to keep track of 44 other characters, according to HBO's website, and follow the storylines relating to past instances of incest, beheadings, betrayals, allegiances, and dragon births. Has the show gotten too complex for its own good? "
http://theweek.com/article/index/226...cated-to-enjoy Of course, if you aren't remembering the locations, then you can't remember the characters by their location, so it would be harder. |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 10729821)
Yep, the map changes - if a city/fortress is in the story, then it tends to be in the episode's title sequence. So, for instance, Riverrun has popped up, Dany's journey means whichever city she is currently besieging is in the title, and Winterfell is a smoking ruin currently.
There's one Robb (Stark) and there was the King Robert Baratheon in the first series. IIRC that's the sum total of 'Robs' you've seen. It's much less taxing that the books - multiple characters get compressed into one, and whole storyline elements are chopped out. When you consider at each location there are usually less the 7 main characters, it should be perfectly possible for the brain to remember them. Of course, if you aren't remembering the locations, then you can't remember the characters by their location, so it would be harder. I read a very interesting, and quite well thought out article that suggested that the Game of Thrones world was actually within a Dyson Sphere, as suggested by the opening titles. It went into quite some detail on the matter, but failed to consider the fundamental truth that it still gets dark in GoT, which of course wouldn't really be possible in a DS. Let me see if I can find it... S |
Re: The Sci-fi thread
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 10729829)
I read a very interesting, and quite well thought out article that suggested that the Game of Thrones world was actually within a Dyson Sphere, as suggested by the opening titles. It went into quite some detail on the matter, but failed to consider the fundamental truth that it still gets dark in GoT, which of course wouldn't really be possible in a DS.
Let me see if I can find it... S I was coerced to see some of these introductions on a theatre wall..... wasn't sure whether to be impressed or not. |
Re: The Sci-fi thread
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 10729821)
Yep, the map changes - if a city/fortress is in the story, then it tends to be in the episode's title sequence. So, for instance, Riverrun has popped up, Dany's journey means whichever city she is currently besieging is in the title, and Winterfell is a smoking ruin currently.
There's one Robb (Stark) and there was the King Robert Baratheon in the first series. IIRC that's the sum total of 'Robs' you've seen. It's much less taxing that the books - multiple characters get compressed into one, and whole storyline elements are chopped out. When you consider at each location there are usually less the 7 main characters, it should be perfectly possible for the brain to remember them. Of course, if you aren't remembering the locations, then you can't remember the characters by their location, so it would be harder. I thought that one of the actresses looked a bit like Rachel Weiz -....but wasn't. The most taxing thing for me was trying to keep track of the time in each episode when a notable actress disrobed...on the basis that I would be able to return to that point for review later... |
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I take it most people watching have seen the Red Wedding by now - no comments?
I seems to have gone down as expected in the US |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 10743563)
I take it most people watching have seen the Red Wedding by now - no comments?
I seems to have gone down as expected in the US http://youtube.com/watch?v=78juOpTM3tE |
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Originally Posted by ROMFT_WO2RN
(Post 10743602)
no I bloody haven't :frown:
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Anyone watched Ripper Street?
Really enjoyed it. A different take on crime drama |
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Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 10743623)
Sorry, but I did give it at least 4 days, and you only have a title (which gets mentioned everywhere anyway)
zero nudity count offset by top gore :) |
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Originally Posted by ROMFT_WO2RN
(Post 10743746)
right just watched it :thumbup: was not expecting that :eek:
zero nudity count offset by top gore :) There's also something known as the Purple Wedding coming up... |
Re: The Sci-fi thread
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 10743776)
As you can see, all those people videoing were expecting it, from reading the books. It's why the producers originally wanted to adapt the books.
There's also something known as the Purple Wedding coming up... haven't read the books so all new to me :) |
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I'm feeling like this guy :
http://www.news.com.au/opinion/game-...-1226659228020 Can't even mention Lady ..... ahh, I'd better keep quiet. Last episode next Monday .... |
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If you have read the books it wasn't a surprise. I thought it was quite well done, apart from the lack of blood. If your throat is slit the blood, (which would be much redder due to the carotid artery carrying oxygenated blood to the brain) would fountain out up to a distance of 6 feet and keep pumping out in spurts for at least 15 seconds before subsiding to a dribble.
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Originally Posted by carolinephillips
(Post 10745427)
If you have read the books it wasn't a surprise. I thought it was quite well done, apart from the lack of blood. If your throat is slit the blood, (which would be much redder due to the carotid artery carrying oxygenated blood to the brain) would fountain out up to a distance of 6 feet and keep pumping out in spurts for at least 15 seconds before subsiding to a dribble.
I notice there has been no 'swap' to date either.... |
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Under the Dome, based on the Stephen King book has just started in the US (being broadcast here too)
I enjoyed the book so hopefully the series will be just as good. Unfortunately, a lot of SK remakes are rubbish |
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Richard Matheson - RIP
Pity they've never made a movie of "I am Legend". |
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 10772578)
Under the Dome, based on the Stephen King book has just started in the US (being broadcast here too)
I enjoyed the book so hopefully the series will be just as good. Unfortunately, a lot of SK remakes are rubbish |
Re: The Sci-fi thread
Originally Posted by scottishcelts
(Post 10775664)
Watched half then chucked it. It was ****ing shit. Wasn't expecting anything else really. :thumbdown:
I won't be bothering |
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 10783705)
Watched last night and agree. Totally changed the story/characters from the book
I won't be bothering |
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Hi Guys , can anyone remember the tiltle of a book I read years ago. Here goes:
A woman gets raped and has a boy who is beyond brilliant. He grows up and invents faster than speed travel. He goes off in search of his biological father. He has a few traveling companions and each paragraph of the book has a different adventure such as giving permanent flints to one planet, a huge mathematical joke on another planet etc, I wish I can remember all. Eventually he captures his father and returns him to his mother and they get married , forced. He then resumes his wandering. Sorry, it's most of what I remember but that's the general story line. I also want to say RIP Ian M Banks, you are the greatest! |
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Originally Posted by oasisinau
(Post 10784311)
Hi Guys , can anyone remember the tiltle of a book I read years ago. Here goes:
A woman gets raped and has a boy who is beyond brilliant. He grows up and invents faster than speed travel. He goes off in search of his biological father. He has a few traveling companions and each paragraph of the book has a different adventure such as giving permanent flints to one planet, a huge mathematical joke on another planet etc, I wish I can remember all. Eventually he captures his father and returns him to his mother and they get married , forced. He then resumes his wandering. Sorry, it's most of what I remember but that's the general story line. I also want to say RIP Ian M Banks, you are the greatest! I assume you mean: "He grows up and invents faster than the speed of light travel." |
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