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Rugby World Cup 2011 Thread

Old Oct 15th 2011, 10:07 am
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Bit gutted by that....

England really pissed it away didn't they, they so could have either of those teams...

Oh well...and the commentary on the UK feed was a bit meh, that tackle was nasty, not sure it was quite a red card, but a sinbin at the least...it was nasty and so avoidable....knobcheese pissed it away.

But then again, what a crap drop goal attempt...the conversion attempt was unlucky and that penalty near the end was heart breaking stuff though.
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
The defining thing about Warburton's tackle though is that he was the only one tackling. In other examples throughout the WC there were more than one person in the tackles making it easier for the attacking player to be rotated and therefore there are more mitigating circumstances involved. Warburton's tackle was all his own doing. It's not like it was even the French player's momentum that saw him rotated, it was all Warbuton, so as much as I pain to say it, he deserved it
It seems that the law does talk about a player being dropped so it was a literal interpretation of the law and I am wrong about that. But I feel that this was a yellow card offence when taking into account the spirit. Even Sam himself said it was the momentum of the winger that caused the lift.

As for the French coach - the French 'deserve to be world champions' - I am not so sure. Even England in 2007 were a bit better. If France somehow lift the Web Ellis trophy they would have come from further behind than England had with less play in them.
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It's the worst of this kind I have seen in the tournament to date. Others I have seen there were elements of unluckiness involved, this one was pure stupidity. Not only did he knowingly lift him, he also knowingly rotated him, two big no-nos
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I don't know which will be worse.

The inevitable whinging and blaming the ref, someone cheating, the weather, the detergent used on the kit, the half time drinks etc.etc.etc. if the Aussies lose.

Or the endles boasting and adulation if they win.

Whichever is is it will go on and on and on....(

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Originally Posted by DibDob
watch it again Wrong, Wrong and Wrong!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rug...land-have.html


The trouble is that under the laws I am not sure that referee Alain Rolland had any option but to dismiss Warburton. The relevant law was amended last year to read: "lifting a player from the ground and dropping or driving that player into the ground whilst that player's feet are still off the ground such that the player's head and/or upper body come into contact with the ground is dangerous play."

The refs have also been told that they cannot make judgements about intent. It is too subjective in an area such as player welfare. Prompted by the appalling spear tackle on Brian O'Driscoll during the 2005 Lions tour, the IRB decided to act. Quite rightly the IRB decided they had to err on the side of caution.
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South Africa's former world-cup winning captain Francois Pienaar said: "It was a dangerous tackle, yes. A penalty, yes. Never a red card". "It is dangerous, but this is a World Cup semi-final with all the world watching. You have all the technology at your disposal, why not go to the video referee or ask your touch judge?" "Sam Warburton has been one of the cleanest players at the World Cup. He (Rolland) has killed the game. I'm livid.

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Congrats New Zealand on winning the 2011 RWC!

No team that has ever lost a pool match goes on to win it. France & Australia have both lost pool games, so won't win it now.
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Originally Posted by DibDob
South Africa's former world-cup winning captain Francois Pienaar said: "It was a dangerous tackle, yes. A penalty, yes. Never a red card". "It is dangerous, but this is a World Cup semi-final with all the world watching. You have all the technology at your disposal, why not go to the video referee or ask your touch judge?" "Sam Warburton has been one of the cleanest players at the World Cup. He (Rolland) has killed the game. I'm livid.

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Yes, let the discussions continue, gets the Welshies off the subject of how their kicking choices brought their own downfall.

I'm far from being anti French since I studied & worked there but might not bother watching the Final. The Semi's a beaut though!

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Originally Posted by Grayling
I don't know which will be worse.

The inevitable whinging and blaming the ref, someone cheating, the weather, the detergent used on the kit, the half time drinks etc.etc.etc. if the Aussies lose.

Or the endles boasting and adulation if they win.

Whichever is is it will go on and on and on....(
I thought it was the Kiwis who come out with all that stuff to explain their chokes? In the Tri-Nations, New Zealand and Australia beat each other enough. As for going on, of course it will...this is the Rugby World Cup.

I can barely wait. I will be pleased with any result - I am torn between Australia and NZ. Australia is my team, but I want to see NZ lift it for the good of the game...actually - just to ring the changes..

A history lesson is in order: if Australia win, they will deserve to gloat - a young team from a country that took 10 years to win the Tri-Nations (leaving aside matches). And it has been 10 years since Australia peaked in that competition and won a World Cup. And NZ will be in dispair. Carter was a loss.

And people still talk about England and 2003...despite that being the peak of what turned out to be a 10 year build - and not really seen since...or perhaps, before...
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I missed the Haka !
Any good ?
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Come on All Blacks, early days but looking really good.
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Tony Woodcock has changed a lot since the last time I saw him.
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Originally Posted by Grayling
I don't know which will be worse.

The inevitable whinging and blaming the ref, someone cheating, the weather, the detergent used on the kit, the half time drinks etc.etc.etc. if the Aussies lose.

Or the endles boasting and adulation if they win.

Whichever is is it will go on and on and on....(

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I will be happy to put up with the whinging and bleating from the Aussies as long as the ABs win it
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