paulry

I completely agree with you . Life begins at conception and once that has occurred no person has the right to take it away.

Sally Redux

Does that rule out 'morning after' contraceptive methods in your view?

paulry

Not being judgemental, but I personally feel uncomfortable with anything that snuffs out the spark of human life.

scottishcelts

Don't be a twat. That stupid comment is not worth a reply.

Dorothy

In any circumstance? What if your wife or daughter were raped and became pregnant as a result? Would you want them to carry that pregnancy to term knowing that she was carrying her rapists child? Or what if carrying a pregnancy would endanger your wife's life? Would you choose for her to carry a baby to term knowing that there was a chance she could die as a result? Or if the baby would be born so profoundly disabled that there was no chance of life beyond that of being a vegetable? Why would you bring a child into the world only to have it suffer?

Seneca21

I do not have strong opinions on abortion, but my basic feeling is that as a medical procedure it is technically good that women have the option, that I support its use in terms of the extreme cases you mention, but that I am uneasy about it being used as a form of birth control. I know this is unfair on the woman as the man is just as responsible for the (unwanted) pregnancy but I can't shout at biology, can I?

When I was at uni I knew someone who had an abortion as a form of birth control and it wasn't her first abortion either. She was 19. To me this is not a great thing.

Kooky.

I think we'll all have to agree to disagree on this one, such an emotive subject.

However please, those of you who have never been through this, just consider for a moment - there are those who are made pregnant in the most terrible circumstances, and there are some women who, for whatever reason (lack of education, lack of self-esteem, whatever, I don't know) use abortion as a contraceptive. You hear and talk about them because it's a juicy topic.

Many, many millions more have their own reasons, medical or otherwise, with which you may or may not agree, and just get on with it quietly. They shouldn't have to justify it to you or anybody else.

I'm not just saying this because I'm one of them. Honestly, I couldn't give a monkey's what you think of me. I would imagine, statistically, there are quite a few more here on BE who, reading this thread, think that the masses feel abortion is only (just about) acceptable if they'd been raped or their lives were at risk.

Life is not so black and white.

Ah **** it, that's me done on this one. I'm on my holidays

Kelli28

Technically it's just a couple of cells at conception. So do you think a single sperm and egg have have more rights than a fully grown healthy human?

paulry

There are obviously exceptions such as those above. As with most things in life it's rarely black and white. And there are some things that could be considered contradictory with my ideal for the right to life For example rapists and child abusers have forfeited their right to life and deserve to face the death penalty.

I Have to admit to being a bit shocked by the number of people in favour of abortion. How times change: A generation ago most would have been against abortion with one or two people in favour of it and apologisng for their opinion. It'll be interesting to see what people willl be happy with a generation from now.

Dorothy

I think you would be surprised by how many people a generation ago were actually in favour of abortion rights. Who do you think lobbied for the rights of women anyway?

Pollyana

Never a truer word, especially with a topic like this.

IvanM

That is your belief but thankfully society has moved on from that and given us the right to terminate unborn foetuses. Women have the right and are using it mainly for their good.

Bix

The court case at the centre of this started in Cairns today and is expected to last for 2 days.

The local news is not exactly hot on facts but from what we are told so far....

The lad's sister in Ukraine sent him pills which they used to terminate the pregnancy.

Therefore both are on trial. Him as supplier and her as user.

Can't see any result other than negative for them as a judge makes his ruling on law and that says a crime has been committed.

The law (I understand) is non surgical abortion is illegal.

paulry

Many see easy abortions as a positive move in our social development. But is it really?

Kelli28

There are quite a few countries where you can buy them over the counter in a pharmacy, I actually researched the drugs after a discussion I had at uni and I found out abortion was Illegal in QLD.

I had pretty much the same reaction as PP I would do everything I could to do it myself then to be forced to go through with an unwanted pregnancy and most of the other women agreed they would do the same. So I think it's much safer for women to have an abortion with proper care rather than try and do it themselves.

Those pills sometimes don't clear everything and bits can be left behind leading to infection.