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Old Oct 7th 2010 | 12:24 pm
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I read this article this morning about how they are trying to de-criminalise abortion in NSW and how one doctor was actually charged for performing an illegal abortion.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8101690

So do women 'state jump' if they want a termination? It has been said those opposed to changing the rules fear more abortions will be carried out but surely you can't force a woman to go through a pregnancy and at the end of the day, everyones situation is personal to them.

I never knew it was illegal there, imagine having to make that hard decision and then be made to feel like a criminal into the bargain, I guess the government think that by not allowing it, people won't do it.

Very sad situation when the State can rule what happens to a womans body.
 
Old Oct 7th 2010 | 12:30 pm
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Illegal in QLD too, was pretty surprised when I found out. I believe it's a woman's right to decide what happens to her body!
 
Old Oct 7th 2010 | 12:31 pm
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It's even worse in Qld. They are prosecuting a woman who had an abortion, let alone the doctor.
 
Old Oct 7th 2010 | 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by James516
It's even worse in Qld. They are prosecuting a woman who had an abortion, let alone the doctor.
That is prehistoric, backward and beggars belief.
 
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I think that it's as illegal as it is elsewhere. Plenty of women get abortions in NSW, but they have to fulfill the same criteria.. that being that the welfare of the mother is at risk, or her mental state etc... and that more than one doctor sign off on this... which then makes it legal...

AFAIK, this used to be the case in the UK too.

This website looks like it's fairly up to date:
http://www.childrenbychoice.org.au/nwww/auslawprac.htm

Seems to be 'illegal' everywhere but ACT, but its still performed. And yes, women do state jump to ACT if their termination is refused.
 
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Originally Posted by kelli28
Illegal in QLD too, was pretty surprised when I found out. I believe it's a woman's right to decide what happens to her body!
I was utterly shocked when I found out too. But apparently abortions aren't always illegal, you can have them if the doctor agrees the pregnancy will be detrimental to your health or wellbeing. So I guess there's room for manoeuvre there.

But I agree, every person has the right to decide for themselves, not the government.
 
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I don't believe a woman has a right to murder her child, just because she wants to, or can.

Sorry.
 
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Originally Posted by scottishcelts
I don't believe a woman has a right to murder her child, just because she wants to, or can.

Sorry.
Don't apologise for your opinion.

It would be boring if everyone thought the same thing.
 
Old Oct 7th 2010 | 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Professional Princess
I read this article this morning about how they are trying to de-criminalise abortion in NSW and how one doctor was actually charged for performing an illegal abortion.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8101690

So do women 'state jump' if they want a termination? It has been said those opposed to changing the rules fear more abortions will be carried out but surely you can't force a woman to go through a pregnancy and at the end of the day, everyones situation is personal to them.

I never knew it was illegal there, imagine having to make that hard decision and then be made to feel like a criminal into the bargain, I guess the government think that by not allowing it, people won't do it.

Very sad situation when the State can rule what happens to a womans body.
Illegal in WA too unless certain criteria are fulfilled. I don't disagree with that. While I do believe in a woman's right to choice I do not agree with a woman's choice to use abortion as a form of birth control. Having limits and restrictions (IMO) on abortion does not take anything away from a woman who needs one.
 
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Originally Posted by scottishcelts
I don't believe a woman has a right to murder her child, just because she wants to, or can.

Sorry.
What if the pregnancy was due to a rape? At the end of the day it's the Dr who makes the decision if the termination is carried out and they have the option to say no.
 
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Illegal in WA too unless certain criteria are fulfilled. I don't disagree with that. While I do believe in a woman's right to choice I do not agree with a woman's choice to use abortion as a form of birth control. Having limits and restrictions (IMO) on abortion does not take anything away from a woman who needs one.
Yes there should be controls in place like in the UK, being denied treatment can lead to people trying to induce terminations themselves.
 
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Originally Posted by scottishcelts
I don't believe a woman has a right to murder her child, just because she wants to, or can.

Sorry.
Originally Posted by LouiseR
Don't apologise for your opinion.

It would be boring if everyone thought the same thing.
What she said. Everyone has a right to an opinion SC.
 
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Originally Posted by kelli28
Illegal in QLD too, was pretty surprised when I found out. I believe it's a woman's right to decide what happens to her body!
There are termination clinics in bris, gold coast, north qld etc and with 2 doctors consent, terminations are carried out daily.
 
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Originally Posted by kelli28
What if the pregnancy was due to a rape? At the end of the day it's the Dr who makes the decision if the termination is carried out and they have the option to say no.
God forbid if I was raped and some doctor refused me a termination, I would do my utmost to do it myself.

Jesus christ that is barbaric.
 
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Originally Posted by Professional Princess
God forbid if I was raped and some doctor refused me a termination, I would do my utmost to do it myself.

Jesus christ that is barbaric.
Thankfully you live in a country where you would not be refused. Terminations are performed here in WA every day. For any number of reasons, including rape.
 


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