Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Australia > The Barbie
Reload this Page >

QLD the thick state - How true?

Wikiposts

QLD the thick state - How true?

Thread Tools
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 12:53 pm
  #1  
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,555
IvanM is an unknown quantity at this point
Default QLD the thick state - How true?

Someone from Brisbane was telling me that QLD comes bottom of the Australian education ranks. Anyone know why and what sort of ranking this is? How good is education resourcing there (cue ABC Stats)?
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 1:02 pm
  #2  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 447
From: North Rocky
micmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to allmicmay3_in_oz is a name known to all
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by IvanM
Someone from Brisbane was telling me that QLD comes bottom of the Australian education ranks. Anyone know why and what sort of ranking this is? How good is education resourcing there (cue ABC Stats)?
If you ask the QTU they will tell you it's not true but they are the lowest paid in Aus.
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 1:16 pm
  #3  
Account Open
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,298
From: Brisbane
asprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond reputeasprilla has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Anecdotal hearsay on this forum suggests that Qld has the worst education system of all the states. Something I'm a little concerned about.
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 2:43 pm
  #4  
scottishcelts's Avatar
Chan eil aon chànan gu le
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 22,437
From: On the ning nang nong
scottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Mmm...on many occasions i've had the feeling of 'the lights are on but no one is home' sort of thing!
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 2:45 pm
  #5  
Account Closed
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,708
Deancm is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by scottishcelts
Mmm...on many occasions i've had the feeling of 'the lights are on but no one is home' sort of thing!
That's typical with all Australians.
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 2:47 pm
  #6  
scottishcelts's Avatar
Chan eil aon chànan gu le
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 22,437
From: On the ning nang nong
scottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond reputescottishcelts has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by Deancm
That's typical with all Australians.
- you've done it now
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 3:00 pm
  #7  
Officer Dibble's Avatar
BE Forum Addict
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,566
Officer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond reputeOfficer Dibble has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by Deancm
That's typical with all Australians.

 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 3:19 pm
  #8  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 222
From: WA
hoveactually has a brilliant futurehoveactually has a brilliant futurehoveactually has a brilliant futurehoveactually has a brilliant futurehoveactually has a brilliant futurehoveactually has a brilliant futurehoveactually has a brilliant futurehoveactually has a brilliant future
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by IvanM
Someone from Brisbane was telling me that QLD comes bottom of the Australian education ranks. Anyone know why and what sort of ranking this is? How good is education resourcing there (cue ABC Stats)?
This is the link for the National Report for last year's NAPLAN results.


http://www.naplan.edu.au/verve/_reso...t_18Dec_v2.pdf
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 5:55 pm
  #9  
ABCDiamond
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by IvanM
Someone from Brisbane was telling me that QLD comes bottom of the Australian education ranks. Anyone know why and what sort of ranking this is? How good is education resourcing there (cue ABC Stats)?
OK, the first thing that people should look at is the ages, and amount of schooling, that each group tested relates to.

eg:

Each year the NAPLAN tests are carried out for years 3, 5, 7 and 9, and comparison results are publicised for each State.

Here is an example for the 2008 results for year 3
  • ACT ave age = 8yrs 8mths : 3yrs 4mths schooling: Mean score = 421.0 ± 5.9
  • VIC ave age = 8yrs 9mths : 3yrs 4mths schooling: Mean score = 419.9 ± 1.6
  • NSW ave age = 8yrs 7mths : 3yrs 4mths schooling: Mean score = 412.3 ± 1.8
  • Tas ave age = 8yrs 11mths : 3yrs 4mths schooling: Mean score = 401.2 ± 4.9
  • SA ave age = 8yrs 7mths : 3yrs 4mths schooling: Mean score = 400.5 ± 3.3
  • WA ave age = 8yrs 5mths : 3yrs 4mths schooling: Mean score = 386.7 ± 3.1
  • Qld ave age = 8yrs 1mth : 2yrs 4mths schooling: Mean score = 371.1 ± 2.6
  • NT ave age = 8yrs 6mths : 3yrs 4mths schooling: Mean score = 306.6 ± 19.9

Note the difference in age and number of years schooling between Queensland and the rest of the country, combined with the lower score for QLD, when compared to most states.
That may explain why QLD comes 2nd bottom, as the Queensland children tested are normally the youngest for the country, with 1 year less schooling.

However, when you compare the private schools, where they start earlier, you do see different results. I will post those when I locate them, I have them on my site somewhere...
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 5:59 pm
  #10  
Sally Simpson's Avatar
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,434
From: Tropical North QLD
Sally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Does QLD have less pupils going on to tertiary education? Or acheiving high results in Yr12?
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 6:00 pm
  #11  
ABCDiamond
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

I knew I would find it after I stopped looking too hard....

2008 NAPLAN year 7. (my daughters year, and showing her school as an example)

Year 7

NUMERACY
557.0 Faith Lutheran College, QLD
556.2 ACT
552.3 VIC
551.3 NSW
544.9 Australian Average
538.8 Qld
536.2 SA
534.0 WA
533.8 Tas
489.3 NT

READING
558.2 ACT
543.0 Vic
543.0 Faith Lutheran College, QLD
542.5 Nsw
536.6 Australian Average
534.2 Tas
533.5 SA
528.1 Qld
527.3 WA
470.9 NT

The Faith Lutheran children have almost all done the same amount of school years as the rest of the country, other than QLD state schools, and do appear to be older on average than QLD State school children for the same years.
Hence the results are much more comparable to the rest of the country.
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 6:02 pm
  #12  
Broad Shoulders's Avatar
I'm Old Gregg!
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 8,460
From: A Former Bogan Colony in QLD
Broad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond reputeBroad Shoulders has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I knew I would find it after I stopped looking too hard....

2008 NAPLAN year 7. (my daughters year, and showing her school as an example)

Year 7

NUMERACY
557.0 Faith Lutheran College, QLD
556.2 ACT
552.3 VIC
551.3 NSW
544.9 Australian Average
538.8 Qld
536.2 SA
534.0 WA
533.8 Tas
489.3 NT

READING
558.2 ACT
543.0 Vic
543.0 Faith Lutheran College, QLD
542.5 Nsw
536.6 Australian Average
534.2 Tas
533.5 SA
528.1 Qld
527.3 WA
470.9 NT

The Faith Lutheran children have almost all done the same amount of school years as the rest of the country, other than QLD state schools, and do appear to be older on average than QLD State school children for the same years.
Hence the results are much more comparable to the rest of the country.
have you stopped sweating yet?
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 6:15 pm
  #13  
ABCDiamond
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by sallyclaire
Does QLD have less pupils going on to tertiary education? Or acheiving high results in Yr12?
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 6:16 pm
  #14  
ABCDiamond
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
have you stopped sweating yet?
Sweating from what It's just a bit of cut and paste from my site
 
Old Jul 23rd 2009 | 6:19 pm
  #15  
Sally Simpson's Avatar
Lost in BE Cyberspace
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,434
From: Tropical North QLD
Sally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond reputeSally Simpson has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: QLD the thick state - How true?

But that doesn't say where they are from or do most stay local?
 


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.