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Old May 28th 2009 | 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by MartinLuther
Not the ones down here: da and ta rhyme.

Just like mama.
There can be no real 'right' way to pronounce words. Everyone's dialect is different even between families. My real name is Penelope. Orignially it's a Greek name but I pronounce it completely differently from my old Greek relations. None of us are wrong, well apart from my long dead grandmother but she was just irritating
 
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
There can be no real 'right' way to pronounce words. Everyone's dialect is different even between families. My real name is Penelope. Orignially it's a Greek name but I pronounce it completely differently from my old Greek relations. None of us are wrong, well apart from my long dead grandmother but she was just irritating
Different pronunciation doesn't bother me. I come from a country that pronounces things differently from region to region so it doesn't faze me that pronunciations differ from country to country.

I like to wind people up who think that the English way is the right way. I think few of them have heard of the great vowel shift and have never wondered why people pronounce Berkley, Berkshire and Hertfordshire as Barklay, Barkshire and Hartfordshire.

As one Aussie said to me once. "It doesn't matter anyway, after the next great vowel shift, we'll all be talking like kiwis."
 
Old May 28th 2009 | 10:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
no, but they do say "darta" for "data", which again is a very American way of saying it. They also say "Rowting" instead of the "Rooting" way to pronounce "routing", but this is to avoid confusion with the fornicating use of that term that they have. However they do contradict themselves with this pronunciation as many Aussies will also say "Root" when saying "which route did you take?"
"darta" more popular, but "data" used too - you'll find it's an endless game of finding contradiction because we all pick and choose between our inherited english pronounciation and the american one. People will swap depending on the word - we don't really care as most of us are used to hearing both and can use both. "ga-rage" "gar-age" - who cares....
 
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Originally Posted by MartinLuther
Different pronunciation doesn't bother me. I come from a country that pronounces things differently from region to region so it doesn't faze me that pronunciations differ from country to country.

I like to wind people up who think that the English way is the right way. I think few of them have heard of the great vowel shift and have never wondered why people pronounce Berkley, Berkshire and Hertfordshire as Barklay, Barkshire and Hartfordshire.

As one Aussie said to me once. "It doesn't matter anyway, after the next great vowel shift, we'll all be talking like kiwis."
Talking of Herts (home county). The emblem for the county is a Hart. I've never understood why the county is spelt Herts and not Harts. It's irrelevant really because most people think it's a Stag
 
Old May 28th 2009 | 10:12 pm
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Originally Posted by moneypenny20
Talking of Herts (home county). The emblem for the county is a Hart. I've never understood why the county is spelt Herts and not Harts. It's irrelevant really because most people think it's a Stag
It's because of the vowel shift.


Talking of home counties. A lot of people seem stunned when they find out that Essex is and Hants isn't.

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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
well the latin way of pronouncing it would be how it is spelt, which is unlike either really. The first "a" should be pronounced the same way you would pronounce "mama"
Well, I studied classical latin at an English public school and 'darta' is the way we were taught to pronounce 'data', a past participle of the verb dare.
 
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Well, I studied classical latin at an English public school and 'darta' is the way we were taught to pronounce 'data', a past participle of the verb dare.
well so did I and in a latin country too. I can assure you that "a"s are not pronounced "ar" ever!
 
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
well so did I and in a latin country too. I can assure you that "a"s are not pronounced "ar" ever!
Oooh...a public school boy stoush....gather round chums...
 
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Oooh...a public school boy stoush....gather round chums...
How does one pronounce 'fight'
 
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Originally Posted by fish.01
Oooh...a public school boy stoush....gather round chums...
no, I didn't go to a public school. I went to a French private school and did latin for 2 and a half years. My point was that French is based a lot more on latin than English is and pronunciations are a lot closer than English too
 
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
no, I didn't go to a public school. I went to a French private school and did latin for 2 and a half years. My point was that French is based a lot more on latin than English is and pronunciations are a lot closer than English too
Oh..battle of waterloo then?
 
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Yes it is a muffin top and will someone explain to me the infuriating usage of the word ma-rone ITS MAROON ! double O- is OOOO not oh
this drives me nuts!!
 
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How does one pronounce 'fight'
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
no, but they do say "darta" for "data", which again is a very American way of saying it.
No, it's not. The Yanks say "day-ta", like the Poms. Check out any episode of Star Trek.
 


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