A previously influential American thinks Australia is a backwards place..
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Re: A previously influential American thinks Australia is a backwards place..
Just discussing this with the wife.
It's a tricky situation. One man's opinion over another.
Clearly there has been a spat between him and the government. That is what he is really talking about. He got, and took a very high paid job, and now's he left. Obviously Rudd doesn't like him.
Infact, depending on who you talk to, Australia is both racist and multi-cultural.
And it is the same with the US. There will be US WASPs who would not give him the time of day.
It will never die.
It's a tricky situation. One man's opinion over another.
Clearly there has been a spat between him and the government. That is what he is really talking about. He got, and took a very high paid job, and now's he left. Obviously Rudd doesn't like him.
Infact, depending on who you talk to, Australia is both racist and multi-cultural.
And it is the same with the US. There will be US WASPs who would not give him the time of day.
It will never die.
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You could say the same about many parts of the USA.
He was happy to take the big bucks when they were on offer, and I'm sure he lived a very priviledged lifestyle when he was here.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
He was happy to take the big bucks when they were on offer, and I'm sure he lived a very priviledged lifestyle when he was here.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
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Strange thing for him to say. Its not as if he would be the type of chap (given the position he was in) who would be down the rsl or in the TAB so I wonder where he experienced it. Maybe somebody made a swine flu joke to him?
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Re: A previously influential American thinks Australia is a backwards place..
The arrogance - "that's what we call Paki's, accept it or leave" - doesn't do them any favours.
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Re: A previously influential American thinks Australia is a backwards place..
Yep, it could be construed as backwards. In some ways, I find thats a refreshing change from the over-complicated and pressured lifestyle in the UK. In other ways it drives me insane - the banking system springs to mind. It's all relative I guess.
As for Australia being racist - yep, I can see that, however I'd argue that for the majority it stems from basic ignorance as opposed to anything more sinister. I'm still uncomfortable with all this 'wog' and 'paki' business and I hope that I never become comfortable with it.
As for Australia being racist - yep, I can see that, however I'd argue that for the majority it stems from basic ignorance as opposed to anything more sinister. I'm still uncomfortable with all this 'wog' and 'paki' business and I hope that I never become comfortable with it.
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Yep, it could be construed as backwards. In some ways, I find thats a refreshing change from the over-complicated and pressured lifestyle in the UK. In other ways it drives me insane - the banking system springs to mind. It's all relative I guess.
As for Australia being racist - yep, I can see that, however I'd argue that for the majority it stems from basic ignorance as opposed to anything more sinister. I'm still uncomfortable with all this 'wog' and 'paki' business and I hope that I never become comfortable with it.
As for Australia being racist - yep, I can see that, however I'd argue that for the majority it stems from basic ignorance as opposed to anything more sinister. I'm still uncomfortable with all this 'wog' and 'paki' business and I hope that I never become comfortable with it.
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As for backward, even the ABC uses baby talk. Boatie, firie, schoolie, toolie, horsie, doggie...
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Australia slammed as racist and backward
From the ex CEO of Telstra who has left the country.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...18-952,00.html
Fair comments from Sol, I think.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...18-952,00.html
Fair comments from Sol, I think.
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Re: Australia slammed as racist and backward
I don't know the whole background to this, but he does sound like he has an axe to grind.
However I'm interested in people's views on racism generally. We're (white) British but have an adopted Asian son. I read a discussion on racism on another UK board. People said Aussies were racist but when probed it sounded more like "joshing", calling Brits whinging poms etc.
So if there IS racism (and I have to say I've never noticed it) what form does it take?
However I'm interested in people's views on racism generally. We're (white) British but have an adopted Asian son. I read a discussion on racism on another UK board. People said Aussies were racist but when probed it sounded more like "joshing", calling Brits whinging poms etc.
So if there IS racism (and I have to say I've never noticed it) what form does it take?
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Re: A previously influential American thinks Australia is a backwards place..
I think you're right. From our experience. Perth doesn't seem racist at all. But I think that many Australians do need to realise - as I've said many times on BE - that just because they perceive something as not being racist - Pom, Wog, amigo - that it doesn't mean that the recipient of that term is not offended.
The arrogance - "that's what we call Paki's, accept it or leave" - doesn't do them any favours.
The arrogance - "that's what we call Paki's, accept it or leave" - doesn't do them any favours.
It's just used differently by many here. Although .. with UK influence it may take on a nastier meaning.