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Old Jul 11th 2011 | 7:49 pm
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Gillard has 2 traits that make her extremely dangerous, she's a bare faced liar and she's incredibly stupid. She sure is stretching the luck of the lucky country.
 
Old Jul 11th 2011 | 7:58 pm
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Originally Posted by stevenglish
Gillard has 2 traits that make her extremely dangerous, she's a bare faced liar and she's incredibly stupid. She sure is stretching the luck of the lucky country.
Mining tax brought Krudd to his knees,carbon tax during hard times may just bring the same news for this lady
 
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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter
Whilst food in UK may be cheaper,household and fuel bills in UK have gone through the roof so I'm under no illusion it's any different in any other country. What pisses me off is the focus is on the wrong issues, maybe folk aren't interested in fighting back and telling the pollys to get their act together. It's a bit like the poll tax, people will only get angry when they get charged
Really my gas and electricity bills are quite reasonable in the UK.
 
Old Jul 11th 2011 | 10:50 pm
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It's funny, I keep hearing about these astronomical electricity bills in the UK but it isn't what our friends tell us.
 
Old Jul 11th 2011 | 11:23 pm
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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter
Whilst food in UK may be cheaper,household and fuel bills in UK have gone through the roof so I'm under no illusion it's any different in any other country. What pisses me off is the focus is on the wrong issues, maybe folk aren't interested in fighting back and telling the pollys to get their act together. It's a bit like the poll tax, people will only get angry when they get charged
I always thought the poll tax was an extremely fair tax made unpalatable by greedy local labour councils with an axe to grind. Under poll tax everyone of voting age paid for the upkeep of the country. Far better and far fairer than an old war widow having to sell her modest detached home because it cost her the same in rates as the jobless chavs down the street with 6 kids over 18 living in the same house as Ma & Pa all sponging a living yet collectively pooling 10 times the income of the widow.
For those who think electricity is reasonable in the U.K it just went up 18% yesterday. Predicted to do the same next year as well
 
Old Jul 11th 2011 | 11:33 pm
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I always thought the poll tax was an extremely fair tax made unpalatable by greedy local labour councils with an axe to grind. Under poll tax everyone of voting age paid for the upkeep of the country. Far better and far fairer than an old war widow having to sell her modest detached home because it cost her the same in rates as the jobless chavs down the street with 6 kids over 18 living in the same house as Ma & Pa all sponging a living yet collectively pooling 10 times the income of the widow.
For those who think electricity is reasonable in the U.K it just went up 18% yesterday. Predicted to do the same next year as well
 
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I always thought the poll tax was an extremely fair tax made unpalatable by greedy local labour councils with an axe to grind. Under poll tax everyone of voting age paid for the upkeep of the country. Far better and far fairer than an old war widow having to sell her modest detached home because it cost her the same in rates as the jobless chavs down the street with 6 kids over 18 living in the same house as Ma & Pa all sponging a living yet collectively pooling 10 times the income of the widow.
For those who think electricity is reasonable in the U.K it just went up 18% yesterday. Predicted to do the same next year as well
Exactly. My MIL was one such.
 
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For me personally I have said it isn't astronomical not that it is reasonable. I don't find it reasonable in either country to be honest. The price rises are exactly what we are seeing here. Having said that it doesn't make it wrong to say their electricity bill is reasonable in either place.

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For those who think electricity is reasonable in the U.K it just went up 18% yesterday. Predicted to do the same next year as well
 
Old Jul 12th 2011 | 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by cresta57
....Far better and far fairer than an old war widow having to sell her modest detached home because it cost her the same in rates as the jobless chavs down the street with 6 kids over 18 living in the same house as Ma & Pa all sponging a living yet collectively pooling 10 times the income of the widow.
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Or alternatively, in a world where resources, housing and space are increasingly challenged why would a single home occupier pay so much less than those who are prudent enough to use the same resource (i.e. 1 home) to much more efficiently house 8 times as many people?. Surely - such efficiency is to be applauded rather than punishing them and rewarding people for sitting on and 'wasting' the excessive space..... just saying...
 
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Or alternatively, in a world where resources, housing and space are increasingly challenged why would a single home occupier pay so much less than those who are prudent enough to use the same resource (i.e. 1 home) to much more efficiently house 8 times as many people?. Surely - such efficiency is to be applauded rather than punishing them and rewarding people for sitting on and 'wasting' the excessive space..... just saying...
Yep, we should just gas everyone over the age of 65, that way all the jobless layabouts can occupy the homes they spent their whole lives working to pay for.
 
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Originally Posted by stevenglish
Gillard has 2 traits that make her extremely dangerous, she's a bare faced liar and she's incredibly stupid. She sure is stretching the luck of the lucky country.
Not forgetting that she's Welsh of course! (Quote from Stephen Fry).
 
Old Jul 19th 2011 | 4:04 am
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Originally Posted by cresta57
I always thought the poll tax was an extremely fair tax made unpalatable by greedy local labour councils with an axe to grind. Under poll tax everyone of voting age paid for the upkeep of the country. Far better and far fairer than an old war widow having to sell her modest detached home because it cost her the same in rates as the jobless chavs down the street with 6 kids over 18 living in the same house as Ma & Pa all sponging a living yet collectively pooling 10 times the income of the widow.
For those who think electricity is reasonable in the U.K it just went up 18% yesterday. Predicted to do the same next year as well
You can say that again. It used to be a fairly manageable albeit unpopular tax to pay but it rocketed under labour rule.
 

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