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Beoz Jun 9th 2020 12:14 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12864381)
It's $750 a week BTW. I got my hair cut on Saturday and the young apprentice hairdresser was telling she's been getting $200 a week more on Jobkeeper

Well corrected. Yes. It was a generous, quickly created, temporary (til September) handout and rightly so for the time and need. I wonder if it will be pulled back to an earlier date for other industries too.

abner Jun 10th 2020 10:15 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12864085)
Apart from the torched economy - with a result no better than Australia's - it's all good

Onya Auntie Cindy

What torched economy?

There's no evidence yet of an economic downturn any worse in NZ than in Oz. And being able to lift COVID-19 restrictions faster and more completely leaves the Kiwis more in line for a V-shaped recovery than a U-shaped one.

Amazulu Jun 11th 2020 1:06 am

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by abner (Post 12865111)
What torched economy?

There's no evidence yet of an economic downturn any worse in NZ than in Oz. And being able to lift COVID-19 restrictions faster and more completely leaves the Kiwis more in line for a V-shaped recovery than a U-shaped one.

Not according to the OECD:
https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org//sites...emContentType=

That report is quite interesting and worth a bit of a read of you are interested. To summarise, without a second wave, it's a 9% drop for New Zealand and 5% for Australia (NZ is towards the bottom of the OECD forecast). Like I said previously, the worst is yet to come for sheep shagger land, but hey, Auntie Cindy's socialist magic money pudding will come to rescue their backward asses!

paulry Jun 11th 2020 3:39 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12865178)
Not according to the OECD:
https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org//sites...emContentType=

That report is quite interesting and worth a bit of a read of you are interested. To summarise, without a second wave, it's a 9% drop for New Zealand and 5% for Australia (NZ is towards the bottom of the OECD forecast). Like I said previously, the worst is yet to come for sheep shagger land, but hey, Auntie Cindy's socialist magic money pudding will come to rescue their backward asses!

Wow, it looks like they're in the doodoo.:blink:

Beoz Jun 11th 2020 6:14 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12865538)
Wow, it looks like they're in the doodoo.:blink:

Of course they are in the doodoo. They unnecessarily turned off their entire economy for 5 weeks. They had one of the most harsh lockdowns of anywhere in the world, yet had a tiny case load, and played it like they were a UK or Italy.

That's why they are near the top of the list for GDP contraction.

Silly silly kiwis

paulry Jun 13th 2020 9:14 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12865568)
Of course they are in the doodoo. They unnecessarily turned off their entire economy for 5 weeks. They had one of the most harsh lockdowns of anywhere in the world, yet had a tiny case load, and played it like they were a UK or Italy.

That's why they are near the top of the list for GDP contraction.

Silly silly kiwis

:nod: Luckily for them they have us just across the Tasman to help ease them out of the sticky mess.

abner Jun 13th 2020 9:21 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12865568)
Of course they are in the doodoo. They unnecessarily turned off their entire economy for 5 weeks. They had one of the most harsh lockdowns of anywhere in the world, yet had a tiny case load, and played it like they were a UK or Italy.

That's why they are near the top of the list for GDP contraction.

Silly silly kiwis

And now the Kiwis have stadiums stuffed with real customers for the footy, instead of cardboard cutouts and canned shouting to pretend to be the audience as in Oz. At least one part of their economy is already comfortably ahead of Australia's in terms of a V-shaped recovery...

Beoz Jun 14th 2020 10:06 am

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by abner (Post 12866718)
And now the Kiwis have stadiums stuffed with real customers for the footy, instead of cardboard cutouts and canned shouting to pretend to be the audience as in Oz. At least one part of their economy is already comfortably ahead of Australia's in terms of a V-shaped recovery...

No reason why we can't stack stadiums the same in plenty of places. Everywhere is good to go other than Victoria. Ironically, Victoria ha ha

New Zealand won't have a V shape. Pretty hard to sell stuff to people, like tourism, when the rest of the world is still shut.

Worst still they crippled their own domestic economy without thinking what the rest of the world recovery was going to be like.

Silly silly kiwis

Beoz Jun 14th 2020 10:09 am

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 12866717)
:nod: Luckily for them they have us just across the Tasman to help ease them out of the sticky mess.

Don't get me started on that again. Private sector companies feeding work off to their kiwi brothers because they have none. She is a disgrace.

the troubadour Jun 14th 2020 1:14 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12865568)
Of course they are in the doodoo. They unnecessarily turned off their entire economy for 5 weeks. They had one of the most harsh lockdowns of anywhere in the world, yet had a tiny case load, and played it like they were a UK or Italy.

That's why they are near the top of the list for GDP contraction.

Silly silly kiwis

Hence why they are not Italy or UK. Are you attempting to suggest UK got it right? Take a look at how much the UK economy is expected to contract this year. How about USA? Various states opening up regardless of increasing numbers. Check out TX or FL
growing numbers for starters.

The continued point fingering at NZ due entirely to an ideologically dislike of the Arden government, yet never complaint about Bumbling Boris or the totally inapt US administration , is selective criticism in the extreme.
What you should and your cohort be doing is bowing at the feet of Arden in total respect of New Zealand being the first nation to declare themselves post virus. The cheer on the rapid rise of their share market. To yell yourself hoarse at the world value having a nation 'virus free' which will prove a big, likely very big marketing tool indeed. A country that is in a reposition to reset its economy and if doing it right the potential to become a world leader in evoking a clean and sustainable economy.

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the troubadour Jun 14th 2020 1:18 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12866974)
Don't get me started on that again. Private sector companies feeding work off to their kiwi brothers because they have none. She is a disgrace.

Loving it. A disgrace?Getting up the nose of hyper capitalists (next you'll be calling yourself an anarchist capitalist) is highly impressive. Arden is showing her leadership. Her humanity has already been clearly exposed.
A shame Australia

Beoz Jun 14th 2020 6:26 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12867014)
Hence why they are not Italy or UK. Are you attempting to suggest UK got it right? Take a look at how much the UK economy is expected to contract this year. How about USA? Various states opening up regardless of increasing numbers. Check out TX or FL
growing numbers for starters.

The continued point fingering at NZ due entirely to an ideologically dislike of the Arden government, yet never complaint about Bumbling Boris or the totally inapt US administration , is selective criticism in the extreme.
What you should and your cohort be doing is bowing at the feet of Arden in total respect of New Zealand being the first nation to declare themselves post virus. The cheer on the rapid rise of their share market. To yell yourself hoarse at the world value having a nation 'virus free' which will prove a big, likely very big marketing tool indeed. A country that is in a reposition to reset its economy and if doing it right the potential to become a world leader in evoking a clean and sustainable economy.

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Why would I cheer on NZ when I can cheer on WA, SA, QLD, NT and Tas, who achieved the same feat, and achieved it in quicker time without resorting to a total economic shutdown akin to what the UK and Italy had to do because they were out of control.

The only state in Australia cheering on total economic shut down, Victoria, has got some COVID problems to deal with

Even better, all states in Oz declare returning travellers with COVID in their numbers. New Zealand either hide them or no one returns to New Zealand with COVID.

Beoz Jun 14th 2020 6:29 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12867014)
The continued point fingering at NZ due entirely to an ideologically dislike of the Arden government, yet never complaint about Bumbling Boris o
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I have raised the UK's totally late to the party attitude. No one wants to discuss it. I guess it is "British" expats.

Beoz Jun 14th 2020 6:30 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 12867015)
Loving it. A disgrace?Getting up the nose of hyper capitalists (next you'll be calling yourself an anarchist capitalist) is highly impressive. Arden is showing her leadership. Her humanity has already been clearly exposed.
A shame Australia

Total economic train wreck. Humanity won't buy you votes. Easy living will.

garethwm Jun 14th 2020 6:43 pm

Re: Political posts from Coronavirus thread.
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12867082)
Total economic train wreck. Humanity won't buy you votes. Easy living will.

If you were actually living here you'd know it's far from an economic train wreck. We are pretty much back to normal. The resorts are full and retail sales in the past 2 weeks have been great. Probably 90% of the population here agree with what we did and are very comfortable with the position we find ourselves in. 👍At least at moment. No one knows what the future holds.


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