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Last time I saw her and the other bloke on the telly they where trying to convince me otherwise. I mean sure we didn't quite make it but if we redefine what success is can't we still say we made it and tell you it was your fault for not understanding what the goal was all along?
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In post #748 you wrote 'the Australian Prime Minister said they would use peoples private pensions to bailout failing companies? That'll be a "fun" chit-chat with the electorate.'

The article in your link doesn't say that. Want and would do not mean the same thing. It kind of makes sense the the transport union's super fund may want to invest in an airline that so many of their members work - given that the union has been very vocal about Virgin not being allowed to fail. ScoMo is basically right in saying that it can't just be up to government to bail out industry in these crazy C19 times

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Amazulu and, previously, spouse of scouse are correct, Morrison did not say pension funds would be used for corporate bailouts.

He did throw out the possibility that some of the union pension funds could be used for Virgin Australia specifically - but he does not make that call, and the pension fund managers shot it down immediately. That is very old news however, going back a few weeks.

Virgin Australia is also a special case due to its very high level of foreign ownership - 91% (Singapore Airlines, Etihad [UAE], Richard Branson, and two Chinese companies). One of the reasons government assistance for them has been ruled out is the fear that the foreign owners will just pocket the bail-out money and walk, or re-invest it back into their home country airlines instead.

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In other words your advise in keep head firmly in the sand, ignoring the ever encroaching regulations on personal liberty and accept it as inevitable and just go with the flow. Freaky and not a little scary.

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I sense the desperation in your tone with being lumbered with some one of the poor quality of ScoMo. Never mind, (big improvement over his bushfire debacle anyway)he hasn't done too badly this crisis, even if able to have the advantage of imitating other countries. We just have to face it. He'll never have the humanity or charisma of an Arden. Just be thankful that bloke over in Victoria is about as close as Australia is likely to get to having someone of such a calibre.

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Sounds like New Zealand

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Do you mean Dan Andrews? The guy that has an ever "encroaching regulations on personal liberty." The guy that wants full lock down, has banned fishing and golf (the only state to do so) yet still has 20 new cases of corona virus today. Sounds very much like all the mistakes New Zealand made.

Its kind of funny, in NSW Gladys openly says, "hey we are opening up, you can visit your friends, schools would have already been back in full swing if it wasn't for the teachers union, but to please the unions, we will start next week, and be under no illusion people, we will see an increase in cases, we know that, we want to prepare you for that, but we think we have all our plans, people, processes in place to cope with outbreaks as they occur in the community". Today she said, look if you feel the need to visit your mum for mothers day, go for it, but just be sensible - for her, she is going to wish her mother happy mothers day from the driveway, because she is in contact all day every day with lots of people. That's being sensible.

You couldn't have a more polarized approach between NSW and Victoria. Victoria is all about ruling with an iron fist, no personal liberty as you call it, one way only, crush the virus and they are failing at that. NSW is taking the sensible view, we can't stop this thing without stopping everything else and even then we don't now if we can stop it, so we are just going to manage it while keeping everything else going.

Thank goodness I am not in Victoria.

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Nope.

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Yes. Today is the first time NZ had no new cases, after all the harsh economic, and social restrictions and starting from such a low case load to begin with, it's a very poor result. The same outcome could have been achieved with far less damage and political show ponying.

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No. NZ took the threat seriously from the beginning. If rightards wish to label this grand standing and other such derogatory terms so be it. Far better than the UK, USA and Brazil that were in denial in the days when action mattered and the ensuing havoc on their populations resulted.
Imagine if NZ had followed suit and similar outcomes followed. The NZ economy would be whacked for a generation plus.

Great job NZ. Great job Victoria. WA and SA and NT should rate a worthy mention as well.

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You mean the land where humanitarian values over ride corporate wishes? Well done NZ.

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Pension funds being used for alternative uses is something for the future. Not at this stage. Unlikely government would be able to resist at some future date using pensions to shore up a crashing economy in times of turmoil.

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The present incumbent in place in USA is attention seeking. Shame he's after the lowest common denominator. It has and will cost America dearly. NZ, on the other hand, has come in fast and hard to control the virus and lessen cost, longer term to economy and population. Was it too hard? Some may argue either way, but regardless it was effective and she appears to have her nations support.

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Its hardly humane to send your citizens into full lock down, deprive them of work, drive through McDonalds, a haircut, and a balanced approach to mental health when your motive is questionable at best. In fact its quite the opposite.

Unless you can give me a good reason for an NZ full lockdown then you will be considered stirring.

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Trump is well ahead in the polls too.