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Old May 16th 2011 | 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by asprilla
I agree that he has a right to say so. We are fortunate enough to have the right to say all manner of pleasant and unpleasant things.

What frustrates me is that I don't think he would say those things if something like that happened to a member of his family, or a friend's family.....and I'm 99% sure he wouldn't be insensitive enough to say something like that to the victim's mother, face to face. Yet he's happy enough to post that way on an internet forum.
Of course he is. However you're presumably thinking along the lines of 'what if she read this', well first off I would imagine the last thing on her mind would be to worry about what total strangers are saying on a random discussion board, let alone reading it herself and secondly I should imagine there are a fair few members of the boy's family and friends who are also thinking and saying the same thing. This is real life with real people with opinions that some people will like and others won't.

Calling the boy a fool, an idiot, stating that it's Darwinism at work doesn't stop people having sympathy for the parents. Don't judge people by a few words on a discussion board.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter
whichever way we look at it, its someones son that died and most of us with kids know how stupid they can be in a moment of madness. Wacky bakky and drink sometimes play a part too. He was stupid for sure, but didn't deserve to die.

RIP whoever you are mate.
Exactly

Originally Posted by lonndongeek
There are two categories of actions while pissed: stupid and *****ing retarded.

Going for a ride in a shopping trolley down a steep hill is one of the above. Trying to balance on a narrow balcony railing 7 floors up is the other. Try to guess which is which.

While the bloke that fell evidently wasn't the brightest bunny in the box, what were his mates doing? (other than trying to take photos to upload to facebook) and should they be locked up?

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Old May 16th 2011 | 5:45 pm
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Originally Posted by paulry
Exactly



Yes
Good job I resisted the urge to plank on the chimney top yesterday when I was fitting a new flue.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Rambi
Good job I resisted the urge to plank on the chimney top yesterday when I was fitting a new flue.
How much of the flue/cowel needs to extend above top of brick on a chimney.I want to build it up to hide flue.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by ukecadet
How much of the flue/cowel needs to extend above top of brick on a chimney.I want to build it up to hide flue.
I'm not sure. I used "new" too liberally. I put back the one I took out a while back (18 months ago).

(We had plans for a double ended fireplace but we hit too many road blocks so I'm putting in a new wood burner - the old one was buggered - and making the other side ornamental.)

The cowl is set into a concrete cap and the openings sit about 100mm above the concrete. The flue attaches to the cowl just below the concrete. I guess I should do some checking.

I have been wondering about putting in one of those cowls that looks like a sitting cormorant. I might check with the supplier when I get around to that.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Rambi
I'm not sure. I used "new" too liberally. I put back the one I took out a while back (18 months ago).

(We had plans for a double ended fireplace but we hit too many road blocks so I'm putting in a new wood burner - the old one was buggered - and making the other side ornamental.)

The cowl is set into a concrete cap and the openings sit about 100mm above the concrete. The flue attaches to the cowl just below the concrete. I guess I should do some checking.

I have been wondering about putting in one of those cowls that looks like a sitting cormorant. I might check with the supplier when I get around to that.
Oh that's ok,I thought you might be some sort of cowel expert who could have told me off the top of your head.I'll troll through my old building code book.Cheers.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by ukecadet
Oh that's ok,I thought you might be some sort of cowel expert who could have told me off the top of your head.I'll troll through my old building code book.Cheers.
Tell us if you find something. I won't be able to fit the heater for a week or so but I thought I'd get the flue back in while there was a break in the rain
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Rambi
Tell us if you find something. I won't be able to fit the heater for a week or so but I thought I'd get the flue back in while there was a break in the rain
What do you want to know apart from don't plank while you're up there?
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by JackTheLad
I wish I could say I feel sorry for the 20-year-old guy, but I couldn't. I feel sad for his family and the police who now have to deal with the mess.

Will young people ever learn from all these unneccessary deaths, or should we just let Darwinism run its course?

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That's my feelings exactly. I feel more sorry for the poor cops that a] had to witness his mangled body then b] Inform his parents their planker of a son was dead.
Originally Posted by asprilla
I agree that he has a right to say so. We are fortunate enough to have the right to say all manner of pleasant and unpleasant things.

What frustrates me is that I don't think he would say those things if something like that happened to a member of his family, or a friend's family.....and I'm 99% sure he wouldn't be insensitive enough to say something like that to the victim's mother, face to face. Yet he's happy enough to post that way on an internet forum.
Let me put an end to your frustration, I wouldn't write anything here that I wouldn't be prepared to say to anyone concerned, Mrs Beale included.
Indeed, for example, a couple of years ago a bloke that frequented the club where I worked decided to commit suicide by throwing himself in front of a prime mover. I was later asked to both represent the committee at his funeral, then, work the bar for his wake. His partner came to a meeting to ask permission to hold the wake, I refused to do both & put forward a motion to hold a benefit night to raise money for the truck driver.
Like you, other people thought it was a callous heartless descision. My view was that my sympathies lay firmly with the poor bloke who will never forget the night he went to work & ended up with with a corpse impaled on the front of his rig. He will live with that image for the rest of his life. To date he hasn't returned to work.
As I said before I choose to sympathise with those who genuinely deserve it. Families like the Larcombe, Dale & Moerland families who's 20 year old sons recently laid down their lives in service of their country instead of lying down on a verandah rail & simply falling off.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by ukecadet
What do you want to know apart from don't plank while you're up there?
If there are any rules about the cowl.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 8:42 pm
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Why couldn't it have been Sam Newman?
 
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Originally Posted by bcworld
Why couldn't it have been Sam Newman?
He's filled with so much plastic and silicon, he'd probably bounce.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Rambi
If there are any rules about the cowl.
Of coarse there are.
What have you got and what do you want to know?
Gas,wood,what?
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 11:20 pm
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Originally Posted by ukecadet
Of coarse there are.
What have you got and what do you want to know?
Gas,wood,what?
Wood. I was wondering if there was any minimum distance between to the top of the chimney and the openings on the cowl. Also it has made me wonder why the connections in my flue seem to be that a lower section fits inside the upper section. I would have thought it would be the other way around.
 
Old May 16th 2011 | 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by bcworld
Why couldn't it have been Sam Newman?
Why did the media give him the coverage he wanted? It would have been so much more satisfying to ignore the tool completely.
 


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