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Kelli28 Apr 9th 2014 10:31 pm

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11212514)
Only on weekends



I take my phone with me to the toilet all the time. Before phones could read the news, it was a newspaper.

At the end of the day, you are speculating. The purpose of the court is to determine beyond reasonable doubt whether he intentionally killed his girlfriend.

It's going to be very hard for a prosecutor to prove that. A recorded conversation or letter is probably the only way.

Nothing is ever black and white just many shades of grey. IMO given the facts I have, he is in my mind guilty.

I just think the Intruder scenario doesn't add up! He lived in a high rise apartment on a secure complex, he felt secure enough to go to sleep with the balcony doors open, a person that paranoid about intruders just wouldn't do that. She was locked in the ensuite toilet at 3am having a pee, my ensuite door doesn't even get closed if I need a pee at 3am! He's also has a reputation for being aggressive he once got up in the night and drove 400 miles to settle an argument with a ex girlfriend.

It will be up to the judges opinion if he can say he believes that without reasonable doubt he's guilty or not.

Beoz Apr 9th 2014 10:49 pm

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by Kelli28 (Post 11212865)
Nothing is ever black and white just many shades of grey. IMO given the facts I have, he is in my mind guilty.

I just think the Intruder scenario doesn't add up! He lived in a high rise apartment on a secure complex, he felt secure enough to go to sleep with the balcony doors open, a person that paranoid about intruders just wouldn't do that. She was locked in the ensuite toilet at 3am having a pee, my ensuite door doesn't even get closed if I need a pee at 3am! He's also has a reputation for being aggressive he once got up in the night and drove 400 miles to settle an argument with a ex girlfriend.

It will be up to the judges opinion if he can say he believes that without reasonable doubt he's guilty or not.

Maybe she was taking a dump. Even I shut the ensuite door for that. ...... Sometimes.

Kelli28 Apr 9th 2014 11:13 pm

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11212877)
Maybe she was taking a dump. Even I shut the ensuite door for that. ...... Sometimes.

When the wife yells at you for stinkng out the bedroom? :lol:

Miss Clinique Apr 10th 2014 12:08 am

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Heres my two pence worth.

I dont believe she got up for a pee, women of a certain age (of which I am one) get up in the night for a pee, sometime's twice. Younger women dont get up they have better bladder control. I am thinking of a couple of different scenarios
1 They were arguing, she was scared, ran to the bathroom picking up her phone off the bedside table and taking it with her to call for help.

2 She went to the loo while he was sleeping, to text or email someone possibly a man, he wasnt asleep, knew what she was up to and shot her in a jealous rage.

I dont buy that she went to the loo for a pee.

My thoughts.

Dorothy Apr 10th 2014 12:46 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by Miss Clinique (Post 11212958)
Heres my two pence worth.

I dont believe she got up for a pee, women of a certain age (of which I am one) get up in the night for a pee, sometime's twice. Younger women dont get up they have better bladder control. I am thinking of a couple of different scenarios
1 They were arguing, she was scared, ran to the bathroom picking up her phone off the bedside table and taking it with her to call for help.

2 She went to the loo while he was sleeping, to text or email someone possibly a man, he wasnt asleep, knew what she was up to and shot her in a jealous rage.

I dont buy that she went to the loo for a pee.

My thoughts.

My 19 year old daughter gets up sometimes in the night to use the toilet. Should I tell she should have better bladder control?

Beoz Apr 10th 2014 1:07 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by Kelli28 (Post 11212900)
When the wife yells at you for stinkng out the bedroom? :lol:

Exactly. Anything to avoid a moan.

Beoz Apr 10th 2014 1:13 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 
OK ... New ... Theory.

She was taking a noisey dump, whilst posting on BE.

paulry Apr 10th 2014 1:16 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 
The electric fans have sealed his fate.

Pollyana Apr 10th 2014 1:16 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 11213001)
My 19 year old daughter gets up sometimes in the night to use the toilet. Should I tell she should have better bladder control?

I remember being young.... long ago.... some nights I got up, some nights I didn't, sometimes cos I drank too much before sleeping, sometimes just cos I woke up and felt the need. Age is/was irrelevant :)

Bernieboy Apr 10th 2014 1:42 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 11213001)
My 19 year old daughter gets up sometimes in the night to use the toilet. Should I tell she should have better bladder control?

Just get her a bulletproof nighty;)

moneypenny20 Apr 10th 2014 1:58 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 
I know we had this discussion when he was first arrested but I've forgotten the answer, if/when he goes to prison presumably he goes legless?

scottishcelts Apr 10th 2014 2:03 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 11213130)
I know we had this discussion when he was first arrested but I've forgotten the answer, if/when he goes to prison presumably he goes legless?

That's a good question, but I'd assume that because he already owns a pair of 'leg feet' then he would have the right to take them with him. Then again, he may need to be locked up in solitary confinement due to being 'easy white butt meat'. :eek: So probers won't need them.

moneypenny20 Apr 10th 2014 2:26 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by scottishcelts (Post 11213135)
That's a good question, but I'd assume that because he already owns a pair of 'leg feet' then he would have the right to take them with him. Then again, he may need to be locked up in solitary confinement due to being 'easy white butt meat'. :eek: So probers won't need them.

Any 'legs' could be used as weapons I'd have thought. How many legless people are there in prisons worldwide? :D

scottishcelts Apr 10th 2014 2:34 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 11213168)
Any 'legs' could be used as weapons I'd have thought. How many legless people are there in prisons worldwide? :D

Loads. It's called contraband. :lol::getcoat:

BadgeIsBack Apr 10th 2014 8:54 am

Re: Pistorius. Guilty or not?
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 11213168)
Any 'legs' could be used as weapons I'd have thought. How many legless people are there in prisons worldwide? :D

Maybe the Red Cross can parachute in some legs as they did for Douglas Bader.

I feel he has a right to be mobile.....you can't just take a man's legs out from under him.


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