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ljk888 Jan 8th 2007 6:10 pm

Parking ticket for facing wrong way - help!
 
We were given a parking ticket just before Christmas for parking against the flow of traffic... a rule which we've never heard of before!!

What is the best way of appealing the ticket (as there was nothing on the sign apart from 1P or something), as we had no clue we were doing anything wrong. We weren't on a busy street or anything like that, just a quiet residential one.

Thanks!
Laura

Tuxtrip Jan 8th 2007 6:16 pm

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I don't know that you would have much luck with an appeal but go to the local council and ask them anyway. It is illegal to park against the traffic and they will expect you to know that I think. No harm in asking though. Just put it down to experience.

iPom Jan 8th 2007 6:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Tuxtrip (Post 4262419)
I don't know that you would have much luck with an appeal but go to the local council and ask them anyway. It is illegal to park against the traffic and they will expect you to know that I think. No harm in asking though. Just put it down to experience.

Yeah, illegal in Aus. Pay it, and forget it. Ignorance isn't an excuse under the law. Sadly.

youngy73 Jan 8th 2007 6:22 pm

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Originally Posted by ljk888 (Post 4262416)
We were given a parking ticket just before Christmas for parking against the flow of traffic... a rule which we've never heard of before!!

What is the best way of appealing the ticket (as there was nothing on the sign apart from 1P or something), as we had no clue we were doing anything wrong. We weren't on a busy street or anything like that, just a quiet residential one.

Thanks!
Laura

pay the fine and move on. you broke the law

Vash the Stampede Jan 8th 2007 6:35 pm

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Originally Posted by ljk888 (Post 4262416)
We were given a parking ticket just before Christmas for parking against the flow of traffic... a rule which we've never heard of before!!

What is the best way of appealing the ticket (as there was nothing on the sign apart from 1P or something), as we had no clue we were doing anything wrong. We weren't on a busy street or anything like that, just a quiet residential one.

Thanks!
Laura

Pay it.

In Australia it is illegal to park against the flow of traffic, as this is both discourteous and dangerous. All drivers are expected to know this.

Even in the UK, it is generally illegal to park against the flow of traffic at night:

222: You MUST NOT park on a road at night facing against the direction of the traffic flow unless in a recognised parking space.
Highway Code.

But in Australia, it is illegal at all times.

moneypenny20 Jan 8th 2007 6:55 pm

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Just my opinion but this sort of fine is the very reason I think everyone should have to do at least the theory driving test. Just getting a straight swap, leaves too many little rules like that unknown. Let's face it, who, when they only have to get the licence swapped, would go and buy the driving code and read it:rolleyes:

Bad luck lkj, won't be doing that again;)

Andrew Cross Jan 8th 2007 7:55 pm

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Originally Posted by ljk888 (Post 4262416)
We were given a parking ticket just before Christmas for parking against the flow of traffic... a rule which we've never heard of before!!

What is the best way of appealing the ticket (as there was nothing on the sign apart from 1P or something), as we had no clue we were doing anything wrong. We weren't on a busy street or anything like that, just a quiet residential one.

Thanks!
Laura

I got the same in Nz after parking outside my house, its frustrating but you just need to pay it and never do it again....:)

phoenixinoz Jan 8th 2007 8:18 pm

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Even if you did have to take a test, doubtful you'd remember all the rules:)

Anyways like others have said, it's the law here. Perhaps just better to put it down to experience:(

the4ofus Jan 8th 2007 8:20 pm

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When I lived in America I got 2 parking tickets at the same time - one for parking against the flow of traffic and the other for parking infront on a fire hydrant. I wasn't aware that I'd done anything wrong and my then husband tried to reason with the authorities to get out of paying it. He was told if I'm driving in their country then I should know the rules of the road. Never done that again!!!!!! Will make sure that I'm extra careful when we get to Australia.

Lynn

Vin 'n Bin Jan 8th 2007 9:12 pm

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You can't park in front of a fire hydrant in Australia either ;)

Oz wannabe1 Jan 8th 2007 9:49 pm

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After reading this....what is the bus/train service like?

iPom Jan 8th 2007 9:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1 (Post 4262829)
After reading this....what is the bus/train service like?

Fab where I am. Where are you headed?

Oz wannabe1 Jan 8th 2007 10:06 pm

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Originally Posted by iPom (Post 4262833)
Fab where I am. Where are you headed?

perth. I think, poss Cairns. Bit of a difference

ohippy Jan 8th 2007 10:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1 (Post 4262874)
perth. I think, poss Cairns. Bit of a difference

when we got our Oz licence I asked for a copy of the regs here and they gave me one for free. They should really do it automatically I think as they were a few things in there that I needed to know

iPom Jan 8th 2007 10:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1 (Post 4262874)
perth. I think, poss Cairns. Bit of a difference


Oh, very small. ;) :D

Oz wannabe1 Jan 8th 2007 10:39 pm

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Originally Posted by iPom (Post 4262901)
Oh, very small. ;) :D

I hope you mean the difference he he

iPom Jan 8th 2007 10:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1 (Post 4262946)
I hope you mean the difference he he

A touch tongue in cheek. ;)

Oz wannabe1 Jan 8th 2007 10:45 pm

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Originally Posted by iPom (Post 4262951)
A touch tongue in cheek. ;)

To be honest I dont know the differences yet. Been to Cairns a couple of times but not to Perth yet...intend doing that this year. The choice is due to OH, found Cairns too hot! Is there such a thing as too hot, blimey, I thought thats what a pool was for!

annqldau Jan 8th 2007 10:49 pm

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Originally Posted by ljk888 (Post 4262416)
We were given a parking ticket just before Christmas for parking against the flow of traffic... a rule which we've never heard of before!!

What is the best way of appealing the ticket (as there was nothing on the sign apart from 1P or something), as we had no clue we were doing anything wrong. We weren't on a busy street or anything like that, just a quiet residential one.

Thanks!
Laura


Cough up and learn the lesson, we had one in Surfers for same thing they quote Aussie QLD Driving code which basically states you can't go against flow of traffic so should have been unable to get in spot so you are technically wrong.

Think you will lose at appeal we just payed the $24 and park the correct way now.

Wendy Jan 8th 2007 10:58 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 4262475)
Just my opinion but this sort of fine is the very reason I think everyone should have to do at least the theory driving test. Just getting a straight swap, leaves too many little rules like that unknown. Let's face it, who, when they only have to get the licence swapped, would go and buy the driving code and read it:rolleyes:

Bad luck lkj, won't be doing that again;)


We read the road rules before we came :o (or should that be I 'made' my hubby read them :D )

We did get a ticket for parking too close to a drive way though when we first got here (even though we weren't :mad: Not going to Glenelg again!!)

Wendy Jan 8th 2007 10:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1 (Post 4262829)
After reading this....what is the bus/train service like?


Brilliant where I am too

annqldau Jan 8th 2007 11:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 4262997)
We read the road rules before we came :o (or should that be I 'made' my hubby read them :D )

We did get a ticket for parking too close to a drive way though when we first got here (even though we weren't :mad: Not going to Glenelg again!!)

We read the road rules but didn't find any that mentioned parking the wrong bl@@dy way... and didn't take going against flow of trafic to mean parking.

iPom Jan 8th 2007 11:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1 (Post 4262961)
Is there such a thing as too hot, blimey, I thought thats what a pool was for!

Yeah, but 24/7 is too long to be in it and you'll get waterlogged. :D

Wendy Jan 8th 2007 11:12 pm

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Originally Posted by annqldau (Post 4263017)
We read the road rules but didn't find any that mentioned parking the wrong bl@@dy way... and didn't take going against flow of trafic to mean parking.


Glad it wasn't just me then :D

I wasn't sure if it meant that or not so I asked my Aunt, that's one of the great things about my move - if I'm not sure I've got someone to ask. ;)

Oz wannabe1 Jan 8th 2007 11:17 pm

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Originally Posted by iPom (Post 4263040)
Yeah, but 24/7 is too long to be in it and you'll get waterlogged. :D

I'm a pisces, will that help me?

iPom Jan 8th 2007 11:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1 (Post 4263070)
I'm a pisces, will that help me?

Absolutely. :D

annqldau Jan 8th 2007 11:29 pm

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Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 4263045)
Glad it wasn't just me then :D

I wasn't sure if it meant that or not so I asked my Aunt, that's one of the great things about my move - if I'm not sure I've got someone to ask. ;)

WE ASKED THE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO TAKE OUT MONEY WHEN WE TRIED NOT TO GIVE IT...:D .

Wendy Jan 8th 2007 11:31 pm

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Originally Posted by annqldau (Post 4263112)
WE ASKED THE DEPARTMENT TRYING TO TAKE OUT MONEY WHEN WE TRIED NOT TO GIVE IT...:D .


They are biased though aren't they :D

annqldau Jan 8th 2007 11:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 4263117)
They are biased though aren't they :D

Quite agree ,but have had one ticket quashed for parking in an actual spot that policeman decided wasn't a spot. Took photos of the parking spots, signs and Policemans car illegally parked and sent of to Superintendent of local police ticket was withdrawn.

Wendy Jan 8th 2007 11:40 pm

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Originally Posted by annqldau (Post 4263131)
Quite agree ,but have had one ticket quashed for parking in an actual spot that policeman decided wasn't a spot. Took photos of the parking spots, signs and Policemans car illegally parked and sent of to Superintendent of local police ticket was withdrawn.


Result ;)

annqldau Jan 8th 2007 11:46 pm

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Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 4263144)
Result ;)

Quite agree...:D .

Oz wannabe1 Jan 8th 2007 11:47 pm

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Originally Posted by iPom (Post 4263095)
Absolutely. :D

Result then...I am such a happy fish

Scott Jan 8th 2007 11:54 pm

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Originally Posted by the4ofus (Post 4262616)
When I lived in America I got 2 parking tickets at the same time - one for parking against the flow of traffic and the other for parking infront on a fire hydrant. I wasn't aware that I'd done anything wrong and my then husband tried to reason with the authorities to get out of paying it. He was told if I'm driving in their country then I should know the rules of the road. Never done that again!!!!!! Will make sure that I'm extra careful when we get to Australia.

Lynn


Shame its not like that in the UK , seems to me if you are from the continent you can play ignorant . how mant foriegn truck drivers park up here where they're not suppossed to .

When in Rome ........

JackTheLad Jan 9th 2007 12:01 am

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 4262475)
Just my opinion but this sort of fine is the very reason I think everyone should have to do at least the theory driving test. Just getting a straight swap, leaves too many little rules like that unknown. Let's face it, who, when they only have to get the licence swapped, would go and buy the driving code and read it:rolleyes:

Its true, when I first arrived here I would quite happily swing across the road to get a parking space. Eventually the funny looks I got from other people made me check the 'Driving in Queensland' book. Ooops.

I also had to check it cos, all these signs saying 2P & 3P on roads were confusing me. Well, no not really, I guessed they meant you had to have 2 or 3 people in the car to use that lane. What WAS confusing me were parking spaces with 3P signs on them. I kept thinking, how the hell would they know how many people I had in the car when I parked there :confused: , and would I get a fine if I came back and only 2 of us got in the car :rolleyes:

So 3P on roads means you've got to have 3 people in the car to use that lane, 3P in a parking space means you can park for 3 hours.

Clear as mud to foreigners.

JTL

Oh and they refer to a car parking space here as a car park which is bloody confusing. As in " I drove around Carindale for 30 minutes but couldn't find a car park"

Oz wannabe1 Jan 9th 2007 12:41 am

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Originally Posted by JackTheLad (Post 4263192)
Its true, when I first arrived here I would quite happily swing across the road to get a parking space. Eventually the funny looks I got from other people made me check the 'Driving in Queensland' book. Ooops.

I also had to check it cos, all these signs saying 2P & 3P on roads were confusing me. Well, no not really, I guessed they meant you had to have 2 or 3 people in the car to use that lane. What WAS confusing me were parking spaces with 3P signs on them. I kept thinking, how the hell would they know how many people I had in the car when I parked there :confused: , and would I get a fine if I came back and only 2 of us got in the car :rolleyes:

So 3P on roads means you've got to have 3 people in the car to use that lane, 3P in a parking space means you can park for 3 hours.

Clear as mud to foreigners.

JTL

Oh and they refer to a car parking space here as a car park which is bloody confusing. As in " I drove around Carindale for 30 minutes but couldn't find a car park"

Its a bit like same language but what the flip are you on about. Didnt know about the 2P 3P for lanes...what is the logic behind that?

JackTheLad Jan 9th 2007 12:46 am

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Originally Posted by Oz wannabe1 (Post 4263299)
Its a bit like same language but what the flip are you on about. Didnt know about the 2P 3P for lanes...what is the logic behind that?


Car sharing, less congestion. Quite a common policy. You'll see lanes on motorways with '3P' above them, only cars with 3 people or more can use them. Of course this is almost completely ignored by all drivers.

carolk Jan 9th 2007 12:56 am

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Hi
I think it's illegal to park against the flow of traffic, because it means at some stage you were in the wrong lane, as if you were going in the wrong direction down the street. I don't think appealing will make much difference in all fairness. They will have expected you to know the rules, sorry.

Siren & Brian Jan 9th 2007 1:17 am

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Originally Posted by carolk (Post 4263331)
Hi
I think it's illegal to park against the flow of traffic, because it means at some stage you were in the wrong lane, as if you were going in the wrong direction down the street. I don't think appealing will make much difference in all fairness. They will have expected you to know the rules, sorry.


Thats it, driving on the wrong side of the road aint a good thing either. Its bloody logical not to park on the wrong side of the road. At night time there are no reflectors and very easy for a car to come and smash into the front of your car.

Oz wannabe1 Jan 9th 2007 3:28 am

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Originally Posted by JackTheLad (Post 4263309)
Car sharing, less congestion. Quite a common policy. You'll see lanes on motorways with '3P' above them, only cars with 3 people or more can use them. Of course this is almost completely ignored by all drivers.

Suppose it makes sense, but doesnt that mean you need eyes everywhere? Explains why I was nearly totalled a couple of times on last visit, cars were overtaking in every lane. Thought it was just me being a dozy git!!

Vash the Stampede Jan 9th 2007 5:02 am

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Originally Posted by JackTheLad (Post 4263309)
Car sharing, less congestion. Quite a common policy. You'll see lanes on motorways with '3P' above them, only cars with 3 people or more can use them. Of course this is almost completely ignored by all drivers.

Must be a Queensland thing, because I've never seen it in WA, SA, VIC or TAS. :confused:


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