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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
(Post 11794850)
FYI, Hitler was considered an occultist by many, an atheist by the rest, never a Christian.
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." - Mein Kampf He was a confirmed catholic, never excommunicated (interesting that), and used christianity throughout his time in power. It's a myth, put about by the religious in general and catholics in particular, that he wasn't 'one of them'.http://lh6.ggpht.com/-ynp5dH_B1ns/U9...jpg?imgmax=800 |
Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by rajj
(Post 11794596)
If the Muslims had been running Europe in the 30s and 40s there may be 6 million more Jews now. But you're right they dont care for islam - radical or not but took '6 million worth of shit' from 'radical christianity then' (by your way of thinking).
I don't have a problem with Israel and in many ways admire the people, but not at any cost and not the neo nutters who are hell bent on achieving self destruction by the way they treat Palestinians. Anti-semitism was rife across Europe for centuries and a 2nd world war without the Nazis would not have been fun for Jews, although there may not have been a holocaust The Nazis had a thing for islam - mainly because the majority of muslims were anti-Jewish and anti-British. You've obviously never heard of an asshole called Haj Amin al-Husseini. He was the grand mufti of Jerusalem and before the war led a campaign against the British in Palestine and against Jewish migration. During the war he travelled to Germany and had discussions with Hitler. The Nazis wanted to use him against the British and the Jews in the middle-east and he wanted the Nazis to sort out Europe's Jewish population and stop them moving to Palestine. He also helped the Nazis recruit muslims from the Balkans into the SS. Not a very pleasant character. I don't agree with Netanyahu that al-Husseini persuaded Hitler to implement the holocaust but he did have an influence on him muslims were no friends of Europe's Jewish population Israel - a tiny island of democracy in a backward muslim sea (but hated by the western left) - will never be destroyed. It is the homeland of the Jewish people. It is their country |
Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11794872)
FYI
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." - Mein Kampf He was a confirmed catholic, never excommunicated (interesting that), and used christianity throughout his time in power. It's a myth, put about by the religious in general and catholics in particular, that he wasn't 'one of them'. http://lh6.ggpht.com/-ynp5dH_B1ns/U9...jpg?imgmax=800 |
Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
(Post 11795106)
He stayed with the Catholic badge for popularity reasons only
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France launches 'massive' airstrike on Isis stronghold of Raqqa | World news | The Guardian
This, don't mess with the French, bloody good on them. Doubtless the gutless backwards arseholes moved lots of women and children in just so they could cry victim, but the blood is on their hands not Frances. |
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Now lets bring a bit of commonsense to the discussion. I've been doing a bit of research on the internet, and, from what I've read, the whole thing never happened it was all staged by actors, in the same way the the twin towers were brought down by the US government so they could attack Iraq.
Well we all know that's a fact, and that the photographs of Neil Armstrong walking on the moon, and the fact that the SAS did the London bombigs of 7/7, and that there was never any jews killed at Auschwitz, and that the Theory of Evolution is simply a nice fictional story, and that dinosaurs never existed and the skeletons that have been found have all been created in laboratories and then buried there.. It's all true you know, I read it on the internet so it must be. :rofl::rofl: |
Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
(Post 11795106)
He stayed with the Catholic badge for popularity reasons only
He was much more the catholic than he was the atheist. Just they want to avoid the association ... now. Which brings us to ...
Originally Posted by cresta57
(Post 11795140)
Plus you can butcher 6 million Jews, go to confession, say a few hail Marys and the big fella forgives you.
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by mikelincs
(Post 11795198)
Now lets bring a bit of commonsense to the discussion. I've been doing a bit of research on the internet, and, from what I've read, the whole thing never happened it was all staged by actors, in the same way the the twin towers were brought down by the US government so they could attack Iraq.
Well we all know that's a fact, and that the photographs of Neil Armstrong walking on the moon, and the fact that the SAS did the London bombigs of 7/7, and that there was never any jews killed at Auschwitz, and that the Theory of Evolution is simply a nice fictional story, and that dinosaurs never existed and the skeletons that have been found have all been created in laboratories and then buried there.. It's all true you know, I read it on the internet so it must be. :rofl::rofl: |
Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11795586)
No true scotsman? He was much more the catholic than he was the atheist. Just they want to avoid the association ... now. Which brings us to ... And you can stay a catholic, to the day you blow your brains out, despite rolling the tanks across europe, because excommunication is for bad people.
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by stevenglish1
(Post 11795640)
Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity, because it has crippled all that is noble in humanity." sounds like a typically atheist attitude to me, but each of us believes what we want to believe I suppose
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by GarryP
(Post 11794828)
Not sure what you are saying, this is the "do nothing" option, or rather the "do exactly the same as before" option. I thought you wanted something more effective?
The problem is the beliefs and attitudes of the rest. They've done surveys, and the issue is that percentage that hold views we would consider 'barbaric' is a substantial minority to a majority in some cases. Things like suicide bombing, murder of those that leave islam, etc. have far too much support. Think how you build those walls. Going to ban movement of young muslim men internationally? Maybe fit them with tracking devices? To be effective (and they are not at the moment) you have to make them much more Orwellian, offensive ... and alienating. In other words exactly what you want to avoid doing. Nope, this is a battle of ideas and ideals - and so far we are hardly fighting. In fact we are shooting ourselves in the foot with things like Manus Island - where it's pretty obvious that brown people are put in unacceptable conditions, and mistreated, so that Abbott could say "out of sight, out of mind". An easy propaganda win, for the side of barbarity. You don't just slip into Europe after you've done your training and brain washing in Syria. You waltz on in. For f88k sake you could virtually turn up on some EU border somewhere with a "I'm a terrorist" plastered on your head, and its happy days ....... over land to France or any other non border country without detection. No need to bring your personal grievance against TB back into it just because he got it right about Europe. |
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Looks like the Germans have just stopped a massive van bomb against the Germany V Holland game.
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Could be the Isis campaign is v the West is gaining public support where there wasn't any before.....dammit.
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Re: Paris attacks/explosions
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 11796154)
Nope. It's pretty simple, you put the walls back up for everyone - why would you say "just young Muslim men"?
You don't just slip into Europe after you've done your training and brain washing in Syria. You waltz on in. For f88k sake you could virtually turn up on some EU border somewhere with a "I'm a terrorist" plastered on your head, and its happy days ....... over land to France or any other non border country without detection. No need to bring your personal grievance against TB back into it just because he got it right about Europe. Firstly, and pretty obviously, those borders are quite porous even if there is no schengen. Any terrorist capable of carrying out an attack can get past without undue hassle. "Ze border posts,zey do nothing!" Second, if europe said "nope, we aren't going to let in the syrians, we're going to turn back the boats" the story just becomes europe killing muslims via hypocritical evil, and ISIS still win through more recruits. Last, the problem with the 'stop the boats' idea is that it's only ever a small, time limited, approach. It's not that complicated to saturate the ability to intercept them by coordinating when the boats sail, etc. - particularly when there's only a small amount of sea. Personally I've never been for open borders in europe (it's a political ideology thing focused on bringing about a federated united states of europe). I've also not been for letting in millions of syrian refugees - since it misses the point. The need is to deal with syria, and indeed all failed states, and fix them such that people can live there in peace. Letting refugees settle in europe just means they select the best and brightest - exactly the ones that will be needed to rebuild syria. |
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No devices found in Hanover.... thankfully.
Hopefully that Turkish report is some kind of misinterpretation of crowd dynamics.... I bloody hope so. As I find that report very depressing. For me it's easier to be stoic in the face of bombs etc.... it's etched into the British character that one. However swaying mass public opinion in other 'vital' nations is a totally different kettle. |
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