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mooncat Dec 14th 2008 2:04 am

osteopath vs chiropracter
 
I have been advised to go and see someone to 'sort out my alignment' :ohmy:

What's the difference in what they do???

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 9:38 am

Re: osteopath vs chiropracter
 

Originally Posted by mooncat (Post 7066187)
I have been advised to go and see someone to 'sort out my alignment' :ohmy:

What's the difference in what they do???

An osteopath manipulates muscle; a chiropractor manipulates bone. Much more 'crunch' with a chiropractor.

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 9:38 am

Re: osteopath vs chiropracter
 

Originally Posted by mooncat (Post 7066187)
I have been advised to go and see someone to 'sort out my alignment' :ohmy:

What's the difference in what they do???

I was once told to think of your back as a brick wall...

And that the osteopath fits the wall around the brick
And the chiropractor fits the brick back into the wall.

or:

'In general terms a few differences remain: Chiropractors are trained to take and interpret radiographs (Xrays) whereas osteopaths are trained only in their interpretation. For this reason, Xray analysis is more widespread in chiropractic practice.

Osteopaths do not practice Sacro Occipital Technique. In comparison to chiropractors, osteopaths tend to place more emphasis on soft tissue/muscle work and articulation/mobilisation of joints. '

I have been to both, and had much more sucess with a chiro than an osteo. Some chiros get a bad name because they do odd 'allergy' testing stuff which I find a little unbelievable. However, those which are more mainstream ('straight' chiro's)tend to be very accurate in finding out what's out and putting it back.
I spent years in pain and got fixed by the lovely Edwin, who now works in Birmingham UK.
I don't know where you live mooncat so can't offer any other recommendation than Edwin.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Straight-...-osteopath.htm

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 9:40 am

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067259)
I was once told to think of your back as a brick wall...

And that the osteopath fits the wall around the brick
And the chiropractor fits the brick back into the wall.

or:

'In general terms a few differences remain: Chiropractors are trained to take and interpret radiographs (Xrays) whereas osteopaths are trained only in their interpretation. For this reason, Xray analysis is more widespread in chiropractic practice.

Osteopaths do not practice Sacro Occipital Technique. In comparison to chiropractors, osteopaths tend to place more emphasis on soft tissue/muscle work and articulation/mobilisation of joints. '

I have been to both, and had much more sucess with a chiro than an osteo. Some chiros get a bad name because they do odd 'allergy' testing stuff which I find a little unbelievable. However, those which are more mainstream ('straight' chiro's)tend to be very accurate in finding out what's out and putting it back.
I spent years in pain and got fixed by the lovely Edwin, who now works in Birmingham UK.
I don't know where you live mooncat so can't offer any other recommendation than Edwin.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Straight-...-osteopath.htm

What she said . . .

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 9:42 am

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067257)
An osteopath manipulates muscle; a chiropractor manipultes bone. Much more 'crunch' with a chiropractor.

Oooh, I love that crunch..... I need to go see a chiro - I pulled my neck a few weeks ago and it's no better....

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 9:42 am

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067257)
An osteopath manipulates muscle; a chiropractor manipultes bone. Much more 'crunch' with a chiropractor.


What he said.

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 9:50 am

Re: osteopath vs chiropracter
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067266)
Oooh, I love that crunch..... I need to go see a chiro - I pulled my neck a few weeks ago and it's no better....

Never been to either, so I'll have to take your word for it being a pleasurable experience. However, having observed others who've been to a chirpractor, there seems to be a need for repeat custom, which makes me a bit suspicious that, being 'realigned' so abruptly might make the patient more susceptible to becoming misaligned more easily.

Christ I need to get out more . . . !

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067291)
Never been to either, so I'll have to take your word for it being a pleasurable experience. However, having observed others who've been to a chirpractor, there seems to be a need for repeat custom, which makes me a bit suspicious that, being 'realigned' so abruptly might make the patient more susceptible to becoming misaligned more easily.

Christ I need to get out more . . . !

Usually, a treatment will run over about 4-6 weeks. It's not a massive 'WHACK' and then you're in line again. It's a gentle and persuasive argument with the spine, rather than a forceful 'one off'.
An Osteo will also treat over the same amount of time.

My first session was so on the ball, he crunched me and I was pain free for the first time in about 2 years. It was an amazing feeling.
I went back every few weeks for a much shorter 'maintenance' session (which cost less) to encourage the spine and soft tissues (which had been injured and were therefore pulling and compensating for the injury, causing problems both sides) to stay where he'd encouraged them to move back to.
It was very gentle and never hurt.
Not even my wallet.

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 10:13 am

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067340)
Usually, a treatment will run over about 4-6 weeks. It's not a massive 'WHACK' and then you're in line again. It's a gentle and persuasive argument with the spine, rather than a forceful 'one off'.
An Osteo will also treat over the same amount of time.

My first session was so on the ball, he crunched me and I was pain free for the first time in about 2 years. It was an amazing feeling.
I went back every few weeks for a much shorter 'maintenance' session (which cost less) to encourage the spine and soft tissues (which had been injured and were therefore pulling and compensating for the injury, causing problems both sides) to stay where he'd encouraged them to move back to.
It was very gentle and never hurt.
Not even my wallet.

Nice TP. You've allayed my suspicions.

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 10:15 am

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067367)
Nice TP. You've allayed my suspicions.

Oh good. :D

Kooky. Dec 14th 2008 10:20 am

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I've been to an osteopath numerous times with various issues; I wouldn't go to a chiropractor myself but that's mainly because I have osteoporosis and a crunch could really turn into a crack. :blink:

My wonderful osteo that I saw for the last few years has some good info on his site - unfortunately I don't seem to be able to link directly to the relevant pages but you can find them on the left-hand side menu: http://www.osteopath.com.sg/

A badly-trained chiropractor can do a LOT of damage, so choose carefully.

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 10:24 am

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Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7067393)
I've been to an osteopath numerous times with various issues; I wouldn't go to a chiropractor myself but that's mainly because I have osteoporosis and a crunch could really turn into a crack. :blink:

My wonderful osteo that I saw for the last few years has some good info on his site - unfortunately I don't seem to be able to link directly to the relevant pages but you can find them on the left-hand side menu: http://www.osteopath.com.sg/

A badly-trained chiropractor can do a LOT of damage, so choose carefully.

Good point S; existing medical issues always need to be taken into account.

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 10:25 am

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Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7067393)
I've been to an osteopath numerous times with various issues; I wouldn't go to a chiropractor myself but that's mainly because I have osteoporosis and a crunch could really turn into a crack. :blink:

My wonderful osteo that I saw for the last few years has some good info on his site - unfortunately I don't seem to be able to link directly to the relevant pages but you can find them on the left-hand side menu: http://www.osteopath.com.sg/

A badly-trained chiropractor can do a LOT of damage, so choose carefully.

Any badly trained medical person can cause a lot of damage! Osteo's too!

Get a personal recommnedation, I find that's the best way.

Thydney Dec 14th 2008 10:51 am

Re: osteopath vs chiropracter
 

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067266)
Oooh, I love that crunch..... I need to go see a chiro - I pulled my neck a few weeks ago and it's no better....

Need to be careful with your neck I saw a piece on TV saying they can tear allsorts of stuff.

Recommendation is a good start in choosing. There are good and bad in each. I've used several of each over the years some were brilliant others were frightening.

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 11:03 am

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Originally Posted by Thydney (Post 7067469)
Need to be careful with your neck I saw a piece on TV saying they can tear allsorts of stuff.

Recommendation is a good start in choosing. There are good and bad in each. I've used several of each over the years some were brilliant others were frightening.

There's good and bad.... I usually interview my chiro too... before treatment. It's a good idea.
Never had a frightening one yet, though did once get a rather ineffective one.

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 11:13 am

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067503)
There's good and bad.... I usually interview my chiro too... before treatment. It's a good idea.
Never had a frightening one yet, though did once get a rather ineffective one.

Out of interest, anyone had experience of Bowen Technique?

http://www.bowen.asn.au/bowen-therap...bowen-therapy/

Kooky. Dec 14th 2008 11:37 am

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I'm not familiar with the term but it sounds very like what an osteo does or should do anyway.

Mine (the guy I saw before I moved), at least, takes a holistic approach - which is what I needed after being given stronger and stronger painkillers and injections in the knee :eek: by the rheumatologist and not getting anywhere with the physio and having a GP who didn't seem to be able to look at more than one issue at a time or connect my liver problems with the stronger and stronger painkillers...:blink: you get the drift? :lol:

He looks at the whole of you, the underlying causes as much as the symptoms, e.g., in my case I had a numb thigh; the rheumatologist was not interested and the physio couldn't find the cause. Mr Jo judged it to be referred pain from my back, which may have been due to an earlier fall. He also knew that a lot of my inflammation was caused by autoimmune issues, and grilled me about what I'd eaten as I have food intolerances and there is a link. :o Also communicated with my doctor and even visited my gym to discuss my programme with my personal trainer.

He was also skilling up in other areas, including TCM, and shortly before I left he started practising Trigger Point Needling - which he came to Oz to learn. I'm in two minds about that one (as I am with acupuncture, which I'd also tried).

Lest I should sound like a cult member (or a hypochondriac or just someone with way too much money), before I saw him I was very sceptical about osteos, and especially the craniosacral therapy, but when I saw him I was in a very bad way - Tiddly knows the history - and he really sorted me out.

I really need to find an osteo here but I keep putting it off in case they don't measure up. :(

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7067575)
I really need to find an osteo here but I keep putting it off in case they don't measure up. :(

Yeah, it's hard to find someone as good when you've been treated so well. That's why I interview.

augigi Dec 14th 2008 11:56 am

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I have been to both, and definitely preferred the osteo. I found they took many less sessions to accomplish similar results. At chiros I always feel like I'm on an assembly line, as they push you in and out so fast. I have been lucky with GREAT osteos though.

Seasider, if you want a recommendation on a great osteo in Chatswood, let me know.

Kooky. Dec 14th 2008 12:01 pm

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Originally Posted by augigi (Post 7067615)
Seasider, if you want a recommendation on a great osteo in Chatswood, let me know.

Yes please! I go there at least once a week so that would be good. There are a couple within 5 mins walk of me and I haven't even set foot in the clinics so very unfair, but from the info (or lack of it) on the web I'm just wary.

Tiddly - a girl has to get her priorities right. I've just spent 7 months interviewing, trialling and dismissing hair stylists, hopefully now sorted. Osteo next on the list. :D

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 12:03 pm

Re: osteopath vs chiropracter
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7067630)
Yes please! I go there at least once a week so that would be good. There are a couple within 5 mins walk of me and I haven't even set foot in the clinics so very unfair, but from the info (or lack of it) on the web I'm just wary.

Tiddly - a girl has to get her priorities right. I've just spent 7 months interviewing, trialling and dismissing hair stylists, hopefully now sorted. Osteo next on the list. :D

I haven't even found anyone to cut my hair yet. I've been here nearly 3 years.


:(

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 12:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7067630)

Tiddly - a girl has to get her priorities right. I've just spent 7 months interviewing, trialling and dismissing hair stylists, hopefully now sorted. Osteo next on the list. :D

:D

You ladies and your hairs!

augigi Dec 14th 2008 12:08 pm

Re: osteopath vs chiropracter
 
http://www.pambackcare.com.au/chatswood.htm

The lady is called Im, she actually trained in the UK. I always found her able to fit me in if I needed an appointment. It's right in the tower above the Chatswood railway station.

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 12:09 pm

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067639)
:D

You ladies and your hairs!

Hair free.... it's the only way.

I was thinking of going really short... shaving it all off.

Kooky. Dec 14th 2008 12:13 pm

Re: osteopath vs chiropracter
 

Originally Posted by augigi (Post 7067654)
http://www.pambackcare.com.au/chatswood.htm

The lady is called Im, she actually trained in the UK. I always found her able to fit me in if I needed an appointment. It's right in the tower above the Chatswood railway station.

Great, thanks.

Kooky. Dec 14th 2008 12:16 pm

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067655)
Hair free.... it's the only way.

I was thinking of going really short... shaving it all off.

Mine is really, really short - I'm going to shave it off one day to see how I look but The Geek has a number zero so, if I did too, we'd look too much like bookends. :unsure: I came very close after the Dengue, though, when it started falling out.


Um, sorry, mooncat - let us know how you get on!

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 12:17 pm

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Originally Posted by augigi (Post 7067654)
http://www.pambackcare.com.au/chatswood.htm

The lady is called Im, she actually trained in the UK. I always found her able to fit me in if I needed an appointment. It's right in the tower above the Chatswood railway station.

Are you sure she's called Im? Is it not Er?

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067678)
Are you sure she's called Im? Is it not Er?

Are you bored, Spartacus? :p

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 12:19 pm

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067679)
Are you bored, Spartacus? :p

Second chortle of the morning. :p

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 12:20 pm

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067681)
Second chortle of the morning. :p

You're only on your second? I'm trying to swap my home telephone on Telstra's website, only to be told to upgrade my account to do so, yet when I go to upgrade my account, they tell me I'm already registered.
It's had me chortling all morning, I can tell you. :blink: :blink: :blink:

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 12:26 pm

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067683)
You're only on your second? I'm trying to swap my home telephone on Telstra's website, only to be told to upgrade my account to do so, yet when I go to upgrade my account, they tell me I'm already registered.
It's had me chortling all morning, I can tell you. :blink: :blink: :blink:

I fear you're caught up in an infinite regression loop of the worst utilities type! There's no hope for you I'm afraid. I shall make sure you're mentioned in dispatches!

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067696)
I fear you're caught up in an infinite regression loop of the worst utilities type! There's no hope for you I'm afraid. I shall make sure you're mentioned in dispatches!

Now they want me to phone them, but sadly, they cut my phone off the other day.

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067700)
Now they want me to phone them, but sadly, they cut my phone off the other day.

Goodbye TP . . . . goodbyyyyyyeeeeeeeeee . . . . !!



TP disappears, hand outstretched, into swirling 1960's type black and white vortex ala The Man From Uncle

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 12:37 pm

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067707)
Goodbye TP . . . . goodbyyyyyyeeeeeeeeee . . . . !!



TP disappears, hand outstretched, into swirling 1960's type black and white vortex ala The Man From Uncle

I know. I may never get out of it alive. I've found a way around it... in theory. There's 'live chat with an agent' online. So I click on it and it tells me all agents are busy... so when I click the close button it says 'Thank you for chatting'. Even though I didn't chat. It's another loop isn't it?

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 1:29 pm

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067725)
I know. I may never get out of it alive. I've found a way around it... in theory. There's 'live chat with an agent' online. So I click on it and it tells me all agents are busy... so when I click the close button it says 'Thank you for chatting'. Even though I didn't chat. It's another loop isn't it?

TP a word of warning . . . in my experience, you need to treat chat live buttons on the internet with the utmost suspicion, and whatever you do, don't give them your credit card details! ;)

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 1:39 pm

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067798)
TP a word of warning . . . in my experience, you need to treat chat live buttons on the internet with the utmost suspicion, and whatever you do, don't give them your credit card details! ;)

Thanks. I got through. They still want me to call to sort it out.

ukecadet Dec 14th 2008 1:42 pm

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Originally Posted by mooncat (Post 7066187)
I have been advised to go and see someone to 'sort out my alignment' :ohmy:

What's the difference in what they do???

If it's alignment your after,goto an Alexander Technique Teacher.No cracking and crunching.You'll be able to walk out as apposed to carried out in a bucket

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 1:47 pm

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Originally Posted by ukecadet (Post 7067822)
If it's alignment your after,goto an Alexander Technique Teacher.No cracking and crunching.You'll be able to walk out as apposed to carried out in a bucket

Was never carried out in anything, UK. Walked out by myself.

spartacus Dec 14th 2008 1:51 pm

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Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 7067835)
Was never carried out in anything, UK. Walked out by myself.

That may be the case, but he did use the word apposed very well, so credit where credits due!

TiddlyPom Dec 14th 2008 2:16 pm

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 7067845)
That may be the case, but he did use the word apposed very well, so credit where credits due!

Oooh you're sharp. I didn't notice that!


:D


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