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Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9346202)

The official sequence of events is unlikely to be 100% true.

Well there's already about 3 different versions of it...

Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9346234)

that their conspiracy theories aren't full of holes and that they are more credible than the official version and disparage those who don't believe them is plain silly IMO.

And to disparage those who question the 'official' version of events is just as silly.

Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 9346255)

members of his family were shot, some wounded, some killed.

Has anybody independently verified this with his family members?

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Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII (Post 9346359)

Has anybody independently verified this with his family members?

He has about 50 sons. DNA could have come from any of them.

The most interesting theory is that he defected to the US, selling out al qaeda because it was no longer following the path he intended.

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Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII (Post 9346359)

Has anybody independently verified this with his family members?

I'm not going there with you Dean, had you been on the raid yourself & even pulled the trigger you'd still be arguing that it was a body double or the DNA was switched:rolleyes:

Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by cresta57 (Post 9346416)

I'm not going there with you Dean, had you been on the raid yourself & even pulled the trigger you'd still be arguing that it was a body double or the DNA was switched:rolleyes:

For me to believe all they have to do is show me the body. Now if there was an interview with the wife who got shot in the leg and she made an admission, then that would be pretty convincing too.

Strange that there isn't. Has her body been dumped in the ocean too?

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I run a rule of three over things. Find three strange things or odd coincidences in an event, and start sniffing for rats.

What are the three here?

No photos.

Body at sea.

And?

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Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 9346568)

No photos.

Body at sea.

And?

'Helmet-cam' video feed of raid was cut to whitehouse for 'critical' period.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/worl...505-1eaah.html

Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by DadAgain (Post 9346570)

'Helmet-cam' video feed of raid was cut to whitehouse for 'critical' period.
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/worl...505-1eaah.html

Good - that puts it as questionable in my mind.

any more?

Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 9346601)

any more?

Yeah, here's a pic of him chillin with 2Pac

http://resources3.news.com.au/images...-bin-laden.jpg

Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by renth (Post 9346626)

Yeah, here's a pic of him chillin with 2Pac

http://resources3.news.com.au/images...-bin-laden.jpg

Thats Nixon peering thorugh the window!!!

Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by fish.01 (Post 9346234)

I think the actual version of events passes the credibility test far more than the extreme conspiracies that are being thrown around web. Extreme conspiracies to me are ones that don't just question exactly what happened but 'state' instead that he has been dead for x years, it's all an election stunt etc Sure discuss wild possibilities but to suggest, like some on the net are doing, that their conspiracy theories aren't full of holes and that they are more credible than the official version and disparage those who don't believe them is plain silly IMO.

I think the reason that this happens is because in effect a lot of the theories are actually linked together not just random isolated events.

Take this 'conspiracy' as an example. Now everyone can agree that there are gaping holes in the official version and that for whatever reason the story keeps changing.

The reason it is possibly linked is because if this version is wrong then it leaves a huge question of why the need to make it up or fabricate the true events. That why then takes us to another question which for instance could be is Bin Laden really responsible for the 9/11 attacks and there is evidence to suggest otherwise.
In essence it will always come back to what really happened on 9/11 and there are so many holes to the story that it's actually illogical to believe the 'official' version of events. Of course my example is very simplified because between those events are a number of other connected pieces such as media bias,the history and beginnings of Al qaeda, loss of basic freedoms etc...

Re: Osama Bin Laden, Dead

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Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII (Post 9346467)

For me to believe all they have to do is show me the body.

For that to happen, you would have had to have been present at the time, watched while DNA was taken, been in control of the sample from start to finish. Any photos or film of the event could have been doctored. A photo shows nothing of guaranteed proof.

At the end of the day, the guy is dead. Where, when or how are kind of irrelevant. Even the yanks aren't so daft as to say he's dead if he's not because he would just pop up on Al Jazeera with one his bunker chats.

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 9346771)

The US had better hope he doesn't pop up with one he made earlier :sneaky:

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Originally Posted by paulry (Post 9346964)

The US had better hope he doesn't pop up with one he made earlier :sneaky:

There's probably a few of them. :lol: