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Off topic bickering from UKMouse's thread
And I can't believing I'm reading it.
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
"Do not feed the trolls"
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by Alfresco
(Post 8114774)
"Do not feed the trolls"
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8114795)
Not funny. Not clever. Devoid of meaning or purpose.
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8114795)
Not funny. Not clever. Devoid of meaning or purpose.
Sorry, I have fixed it below. "Do not feed the troll" |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 8114816)
Even so, I still like you Will.
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by Alfresco
(Post 8114774)
"Do not feed the trolls"
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by ukmouse
(Post 8115301)
Erm... are you calling me a troll? Just wondered! :huh:
No, not at all. I wish you all the very best in your move to Perth. We're hoping to move to Oz next year ourselves. Read post #11 - there's the troll, Mr Anti-Australia. Unfortunately he has already spoiled your thread. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by Alfresco
(Post 8115316)
No, not at all. I wish you all the very best in your move to Perth. We're hoping to move to Oz next year ourselves.
Read post #11 - there's the troll, Mr Anti-Australia. Unfortunately he has already spoiled your thread. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8114795)
Not funny. Not clever. Devoid of meaning or purpose.
Best of luck to the OP |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by Alfresco
(Post 8115316)
No, not at all. I wish you all the very best in your move to Perth. We're hoping to move to Oz next year ourselves.
Read post #11 - there's the troll, Mr Anti-Australia. Unfortunately he has already spoiled your thread. Surely the implication there is that no one could possibly hold genuine views against Australia, so they must be fabricating them as part of their desire to be a ''troll''. Tough if you can't understand why someone wouldn't like Australia. That's your problem. Doesn't make someone who dislikes the place a ''troll''. Lazy, cheap and all too convenient way of trying to invite the mods to shut someone down just because they are expressing views you happen not to like/agree with. Calling someone a ''troll'' is the internet forum equivalent of a school kid saying ''my Dad's bigger than your Dad'' or ''he started it''. Pathetic. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8115888)
Still intrigued by the rationale that decrees that if you are ''anti-Australia'' you must be a ''troll''.
Surely the implication there is that no one could possibly hold genuine views against Australia, so they must be fabricating them as part of their desire to be a ''troll''. Tough if you can't understand why someone wouldn't like Australia. That's your problem. Doesn't make someone who dislikes the place a ''troll''. Lazy, cheap and all too convenient way of trying to invite the mods to shut someone down just because they are expressing views you happen not to like/agree with. Calling someone a ''troll'' is the internet forum equivalent of a school kid saying ''my Dad's bigger than your Dad'' or ''he started it''. Pathetic. I live in Australia and know from personal experience that everything is not perfect and will whinge accordingly. However, if on balance I thought Australia was not for me, I would leave and not spend my time trying to convince others what an awful place it is, I have better things to do with my time. As far as I'm aware this site is for those people who have decided, or are deciding to settle in Australia. To seek advice and get opinions, constructive opinions good and bad. To come on this site with nothing but negative comments just smacks of bitterness and of a life with nothing more fulfilling in it. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by geordiebloke
(Post 8115918)
But why would you waste your time :confused:
I live in Australia and know from personal experience that everything is not perfect and will whinge accordingly. However, if on balance I thought Australia was not for me, I would leave and not spend my time trying to convince others what an awful place it is, I have better things to do with my time. As far as I'm aware this site is for those people who have decided, or are deciding to settle in Australia. To seek advice and get opinions, constructive opinions good and bad. To come on this site with nothing but negative comments just smacks of bitterness and of a life with nothing more fulfilling in it. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by geordiebloke
(Post 8115918)
But why would you waste your time :confused:
I live in Australia and know from personal experience that everything is not perfect and will whinge accordingly. However, if on balance I thought Australia was not for me, I would leave and not spend my time trying to convince others what an awful place it is, I have better things to do with my time. As far as I'm aware this site is for those people who have decided, or are deciding to settle in Australia. To seek advice and get opinions, constructive opinions good and bad. To come on this site with nothing but negative comments just smacks of bitterness and of a life with nothing more fulfilling in it. People should be able to hear about all sides of the story of moving to Australia. Why do they only need to hear the boring old ''I moved to Brisbane and love it here'' version over and over again? That might give them encouragement but is encouragement all they need? People need to be made aware that it is possible to make a move overseas and really not like it at all. People need to look into the future and have the facility to consider as many different eventualities as possible. We are not talking about which breed of puppy to buy here; we are discussing the country in which people are going to live their lives. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8115956)
For you to consider yourself the judge of what people should/shouldn't be interested in reading about when making such a big decision is very pompous and makes you guilty of the narrow viewpoint that you are trying to accuse me of.
People should be able to hear about all sides of the story of moving to Australia. Why do they only need to hear the boring old ''I moved to Brisbane and love it here'' version over and over again? That might give them encouragement but is encouragement all they need? People need to be made aware that it is possible to make a move overseas and really not like it at all. People need to look into the future and have the facility to consider as many different eventualities as possible. We are not talking about which breed of puppy to buy here; we are discussing the country in which people are going to live their lives. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8115956)
For you to consider yourself the judge of what people should/shouldn't be interested in reading about when making such a big decision is very pompous and makes you guilty of the narrow viewpoint that you are trying to accuse me of.
People should be able to hear about all sides of the story of moving to Australia. Why do they only need to hear the boring old ''I moved to Brisbane and love it here'' version over and over again? That might give them encouragement but is encouragement all they need? People need to be made aware that it is possible to make a move overseas and really not like it at all. People need to look into the future and have the facility to consider as many different eventualities as possible. We are not talking about which breed of puppy to buy here; we are discussing the country in which people are going to live their lives. Like I said advice good and bad is what this forum is all about, but do you really believe that constant negative posts are going to be helpful? indeed if all you ever post is how crap the place is, do you think people will take anything you say seriously, even when you are making salient points. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8115888)
Still intrigued by the rationale that decrees that if you are ''anti-Australia'' you must be a ''troll''.
Surely the implication there is that no one could possibly hold genuine views against Australia, so they must be fabricating them as part of their desire to be a ''troll''. Tough if you can't understand why someone wouldn't like Australia. That's your problem. Doesn't make someone who dislikes the place a ''troll''. Lazy, cheap and all too convenient way of trying to invite the mods to shut someone down just because they are expressing views you happen not to like/agree with. Calling someone a ''troll'' is the internet forum equivalent of a school kid saying ''my Dad's bigger than your Dad'' or ''he started it''. Pathetic. BE Forum Rules: http://britishexpats.com/site-rules/ "4. Trolling on this site is not tolerated. We define trolling as any inflammatory threads or posts that are started with the sole intent of upsetting or antagonizing other members. Anyone found making such posts will be removed from the forums." And as the OP stated:
Originally Posted by ukmouse
(Post 8116009)
Actually.... (with the deepest respect) this is my thread, and we're discussing the fact that we are delighted that we have the opportnutity to move to Perth.
Its isnt a 'What is Perth / Australia like?' thread. Its a 'We're very excited' thread. The difference is... at a friends surprise birthday party are you the person that shouts 'SURPRISE, CONGRATULATIONS' with everyone else.... or are you the person that pipes up 'Stop celebrating - you're another year nearer death!' :)
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8114739)
And I can't believing I'm reading it.
Do you say to someone who has just announced that they are expecting a baby "I can't believe I'm hearing this" or do you say something positive and congratulatory? Maybe a Mod could clarify whether my take on this situation is in line with BE policy or not? |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
There is room for negative comments about OZ but not in this thread, if the title of the thread was " Should we move to Australia" then negative comments would be OK, but as the title is ' we are moving to Australia" negative comments are just a waste of time and serve no purpose other then to wind people up.
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by Alfresco
(Post 8116194)
BE Forum Rules: http://britishexpats.com/site-rules/
"4. Trolling on this site is not tolerated. We define trolling as any inflammatory threads or posts that are started with the sole intent of upsetting or antagonizing other members. Anyone found making such posts will be removed from the forums." And as the OP stated: So your post: Was contributing nothing in a positive way and therefore was a provocative statement which fits the description above in rule #4. Do you say to someone who has just announced that they are expecting a baby "I can't believe I'm hearing this" or do you say something positive and congratulatory? Maybe a Mod could clarify whether my take on this situation is in line with BE policy or not? Aah, but the big problem with all of this arrogant nonsense you put forward is that people only bother to refer to the ''rules'' when someone who is anti-Australia ''breaks'' them. If someone like Hutch or Renth, who are both clearly in favour of Australia to put it mildly, said something like ''I can't believe I'm reading it'' (and I can think of plenty of times they have said things very similar to this with the sole intention of mocking someone's negative view of Australia) no one seems to care and the word ''troll'' is certainly never mentioned. Too complicated for you to grasp though I expect. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Hutch and Renth and many others like them FREQUENTLY post remarks with the SOLE purpose of mocking the views of others/provoking them.
Why is this not termed ''trolling''? I can tell you why. Because they come at it from a pro-Australia standpoint, which people find acceptable. That is the ONLY difference. So apply the same rules to all or shut the hell up with your pathetic, childish and predictable cries of ''troll''. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116301)
Hutch and Renth and many others like them FREQUENTLY post remarks with the SOLE purpose of mocking the views of others/provoking them.
Why is this not termed ''trolling''? I can tell you why. Because they come at it from a pro-Australia standpoint, which people find acceptable. That is the ONLY difference. So apply the same rules to all or shut the hell up with your pathetic, childish and predictable cries of ''troll''. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 8116305)
It is a shame a "congratulations " thread has turned into this.
I have a totally fair point here. The justification for calling someone like me a troll is that, apparently, I make provocative posts. How is this different from Hutch or Renth? Answer: it isn't. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116307)
Yeah well Keith until some of your buddies learn to drop their girly shrieks of ''ooh, tell the nasty troll off, miss'' then what do you expect?
I have a totally fair point here. The justification for calling someone like me a troll is that, apparently, I make provocative posts. How is this different from Hutch or Renth? Answer: it isn't. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116307)
Yeah well Keith until some of your buddies learn to drop their girly shrieks of ''ooh, tell the nasty troll off, miss'' then what do you expect?
I have a totally fair point here. The justification for calling someone like me a troll is that, apparently, I make provocative posts. How is this different from Hutch or Renth? Answer: it isn't. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by mohogony
(Post 8116309)
Why would you make negative comments on this thread about someone moving to OZ unless you were being a troll, the person seemed happy about moving to OZ and wanted to share it with the forum and you seemed to want to ruin it for them.
You tolerate it from them so learn to tolerate it from everyone. Just because someone does not approach the topic from a perspective that you agree with does not mean they should be labelled a ''troll'' or indeed anything else. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 8116314)
It should have been taken to PM in order not to spoil the thread. Also your initial comment which started it was uncalled for on such a thread....
But they do not bother you. Wonder why. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116316)
Err, but yet again, many of Hutch's remarks are ''uncalled for''.
But they do not bother you. Wonder why. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by mohogony
(Post 8116309)
Why would you make negative comments on this thread about someone moving to OZ unless you were being a troll, the person seemed happy about moving to OZ and wanted to share it with the forum and you seemed to want to ruin it for them. Not everyone who immigrants to OZ ends up hating it most like the place.
Won't stop people like Hutch and Renth taking the piss in their usual way, will it? Again, you just can't grasp this, can you? |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8115956)
For you to consider yourself the judge of what people should/shouldn't be interested in reading about when making such a big decision is very pompous and makes you guilty of the narrow viewpoint that you are trying to accuse me of.
People should be able to hear about all sides of the story of moving to Australia. Why do they only need to hear the boring old ''I moved to Brisbane and love it here'' version over and over again? That might give them encouragement but is encouragement all they need? People need to be made aware that it is possible to make a move overseas and really not like it at all. People need to look into the future and have the facility to consider as many different eventualities as possible. We are not talking about which breed of puppy to buy here; we are discussing the country in which people are going to live their lives. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by kporte
(Post 8116320)
They do if they are on a thread like this.
People are bothered by sarcasm directed at the expense of Australia and those that love it. People are not bothered to ANYTHING LIKE THE SAME EXTENT by sarcasm directed at the expense of the UK and those that love it. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by paulry
(Post 8116324)
time and place
Where, then, is the ''time and place'', oh wise rule-maker, to be negative about Australia? Oh, yes, that's right; there isn't one. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116327)
So, your point is that BE is the ''time and place'' to be positive about Australia and positive only.
Where, then, is the ''time and place'', oh wise rule-maker, to be negative about Australia? Oh, yes, that's right; there isn't one. I really don't care about your negative views, each to their own, but there is a time and a place for it (and this isn't it). There are plenty of posters who have negative things to say about Australia (Arkon springs to mind) but you're the only one who seems to take it to the extreme with every post. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by comet555
(Post 8116341)
I'll be upfront and say that I've reported your posts on this thread. I wish you'd just learn when it's appropriate to go all anti-Australia as you put it.
I really don't care about your negative views, each to their own, but there is a time and a place for it (and this isn't it). There are plenty of posters who have negative things to say about Australia (Arkon springs to mind) but you're the only one who seems to take it to the extreme with every post. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116327)
So, your point is that BE is the ''time and place'' to be positive about Australia and positive only.
Where, then, is the ''time and place'', oh wise rule-maker, to be negative about Australia? Oh, yes, that's right; there isn't one. Read the thread again and you might realise when and where that time an place is :rolleyes: |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116344)
Oh, wow, your honesty and integrity is SO impressive.
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by comet555
(Post 8116355)
I just thought you might like to put a name to the complaint so to speak. Take it however you like it... which appears to be badly like everything else!
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116360)
Expecting me to respect you for going and whinging to the mods is rather strange.
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Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by comet555
(Post 8116371)
Why on earth would you think I'm looking for your respect! :eek: I don't give a crap what you think about me. Seriously.... get over yourself!
Cared enough to go and whinge to the mods like the weedy kid at school though. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116372)
Why are you engaging in any form of dialogue with or about me then?
Cared enough to go and whinge to the mods like the weedy kid at school though. I'm still at a loss as to what you hope to achieve by posting on here, other than making others feel as bad as you obviously do. It must be awful being as negative as you are and I really hope things get better for you in the future. |
Re: I cant believe I'm typing this - WE'RE MOVING TO PERTH!
Originally Posted by willamos
(Post 8116372)
Why are you engaging in any form of dialogue with or about me then?
Cared enough to go and whinge to the mods like the weedy kid at school though. |
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