Originally Posted by geordiebloke

Indeed, everybody is entitled to an opinion, especially on a public forum like this and my "opinion" is that, maybe, people should a small amount of knowledge before they comment. Especially when that comment is given as a fact rather than an opinion.
Reading an article in the newspaper, does not make you well versed in these things, particularly if you are already biased against police, or any other group of people for that matter.
Do cops sometimes go over the top when dealing with things???? well, when you consider that there are thousands of cops on duty here or in the UK or wherever and the thousands of incidents that are being dealt with on a daily basis, of course there are going to be incidents where things could have been done differently or better.
Think about your own job, I'm sure you don't do things perfectly every time and maybe your experience makes you better now than when you first started.
Cops $%^& like any other profession/worker the difference is, when a cop messes up it's usually in public view and everybody has an "opinion" how it should have been done.

Originally Posted by geordiebloke

And you know "most" of them???????????

This comment is just ridiculous

Originally Posted by geordiebloke

And you know "most" of them???????????

This comment is just ridiculous

Originally Posted by rabsody

Um. Excuse me. How do you know I am not a lawyer or a journalist who dealt with these cases? How do you know I am not an ombudsman. You don't and I'm not. But don't make assumptions!

I hear what you are saying in your arguement Geordi. The difference is when the average person f*** things up in their job it doesn't (usually) entail the loss of life or physical harm of another person. And if it does (a doctor) it is usually done with the intent of helping them, not harming them.

All I am saying is, in my experience, the average Queensland cop has a far more aggressive and authoritarian bully boy stance than anything I ever encountered in UK (much the same as the American police are reknowned for).

Originally Posted by sammyg

Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't you a student (or were recently?) That would explain a lot, a 'student of life'

Originally Posted by sammyg

well, i just hope that in your time of need (IF you ever have one) and you have to phone for police assisstance they don't turn up because people with attitudes such as yours are simply hippocrits at times like that...

A lot of people hate police for no apparent reason other than they've come accross the odd obnoxious copper, don't be so closed-minded, there are plenty of good police out there.

It sickens me that they are having to go to emergent jobs in many cases trying to protect the lives of people like yourselves with your views and misguided opinions. Stop reading the bloody courier mail!!

Originally Posted by sammyg

Correct me if i'm wrong but aren't you a student (or were recently?) That would explain a lot, a 'student of life'

Originally Posted by rabsody

Um. Excuse me. How do you know I am not a lawyer or a journalist who dealt with these cases? How do you know I am not an ombudsman. You don't and I'm not. But don't make assumptions!

I hear what you are saying in your arguement Geordi. The difference is when the average person f*** things up in their job it doesn't (usually) entail the loss of life or physical harm of another person. And if it does (a doctor) it is usually done with the intent of helping them, not harming them.

All I am saying is, in my experience, the average Queensland cop has a far more aggressive and authoritarian bully boy stance than anything I ever encountered in UK (much the same as the American police are reknowned for).

Originally Posted by sammyg

Um. Excuse me. How do you know I am not a lawyer or a journalist who dealt with these cases? How do you know I am not an ombudsman. You don't and I'm not. But don't make assumptions!

Originally Posted by rabsody

I have eyes Geordie, I have eyes!!!!

Originally Posted by rabsody

Isn't it ironic that you know bugger all about me but yet you are calling me a hypocrite, closed minded and a Courier Mail reader (the latter of which I find the most offensive). For your information, I have had a few times "of need", as you put it, and the police have done two fifths of f-all to help me.

I know of a single mum with a young daughter who called the police due to an intruder in the middle of the night. Took them about 5 hours to get there. In the meantime thankfully she was not raped or murdered, merely her gear nicked, so don't tell me about "times of need".

However, I must commend them for their speed in which they were able to do me crossing the road at a pedestrian crossing as the little green man turned red. So pleased to see they have their priorities right.

Originally Posted by geordiebloke

Fair enough, but thats the thing, when I as cop make a mistake (I've been a cop both in the UK and WA) the ramifications are far more serious than most other jobs. If I balls up, somebody could get killed, I could get killed or end up in prison. For most other workers, the sack is all they have to worry about.
Now, I decided to do this job with best intentions 13 years ago, but when I consider that I could work Mon-Fri painting walls for the same money and with no risk to my wellbeing, I find it harder and harder to justify the job I do.

Originally Posted by rabsody

Is that the best you can do dear? Arguing your point of view might have a tad more credibility than your unsuccessful attempts at name calling and playground humour. Never mind, I guess the police need all the help they can get.

Originally Posted by sammyg

I know of a single mum with a young daughter who called the police due to an intruder in the middle of the night. Took them about 5 hours to get there. In the meantime thankfully she was not raped or murdered, merely her gear nicked, so don't tell me about "times of need".




really? sounds like hearsay to me, if she had called 000 and told them break is on police would have been there on code 2 (lights and sirens)within minutes...NEVER 5 hours that is impossible, are you sure she didn't call them and tell them that she had been burgled? You see by stories like this getting passed around the community via chinese whispers, the facts of these situations get distorted and opinions are made.

And yes, if you step off the kerb on a flashing red ped crossing you are breaking the law, sad but true