MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
#331
Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
He's got a flight management computer - he's used to having that fly the route to a location. Why wouldn't he just set that to the most remote location he could think of? Rather than just setting a rough heading.
Not sure. I can't see anything that Malaysia Airlines has done wrong in this - at least with the data we have. The government being incompetent yes, but I'd probably trust the airline over one from China say (where the history of fakes, frauds and corner cutting would be a worry).
Not sure. I can't see anything that Malaysia Airlines has done wrong in this - at least with the data we have. The government being incompetent yes, but I'd probably trust the airline over one from China say (where the history of fakes, frauds and corner cutting would be a worry).
Your thinking like a European though.... I understand on my fairly limited but probing questions of Chinese peoples views of Malaysia... and from my understanding it's the Asian country where the Chinese are liked the least or receive the most negativity.
#332
Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Anyone know if they've given up on any other search areas? They seem to be concentrating on one venue, which is totally reliant on the identification of a fuzzy sat image as being part of an aircraft.
Unless they locate the pinger in the next week or two the chances of recovery seem infinitesimal, barring a fortunate random sighting on the surface.
Without a reasonably accurate final position no-one could expect a search of the Indian ocean underwater to be attempted - let alone the China sea etc.
Keep our fingers crossed that the "debris" is found and identified very soon, otherwise we probably have an unexplained accident unless intelligence / police investigation turns something up.
Unless they locate the pinger in the next week or two the chances of recovery seem infinitesimal, barring a fortunate random sighting on the surface.
Without a reasonably accurate final position no-one could expect a search of the Indian ocean underwater to be attempted - let alone the China sea etc.
Keep our fingers crossed that the "debris" is found and identified very soon, otherwise we probably have an unexplained accident unless intelligence / police investigation turns something up.
Last edited by Wol; Mar 22nd 2014 at 2:38 am.
#333
Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Anyone know if they've given up on any other search areas? They seem to be concentrating on one venue, which is totally relient on the identification of a fuzzy sat image as being part of an aircraft.
Unless they locate the pinger in the next week or two the chances of recovery seem infinitesimal, barring a fortunate random sighting on the surface.
Without a reasonably accurate final position no-one could expect a search of the Indian ocean underwater to be attempted - let alone the China sea etc.
Keep our fingers crossed that the "debris" is found and identified very soon, otherwise we probably have an unexplained accident unless intelligence / police investigation turns something up.
Unless they locate the pinger in the next week or two the chances of recovery seem infinitesimal, barring a fortunate random sighting on the surface.
Without a reasonably accurate final position no-one could expect a search of the Indian ocean underwater to be attempted - let alone the China sea etc.
Keep our fingers crossed that the "debris" is found and identified very soon, otherwise we probably have an unexplained accident unless intelligence / police investigation turns something up.
Even if they find surface debris, they still have to backtrack 10 days worth of drift in order to find out where the seabed debris might be - and then go looking for the pinger (and where exactly is the distress beacon they should have had for the debris anyway?).
They are supposed to have good weather today - so I'd say that if they don't spot something today they probably won't ever.
#334
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Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Anyone considered the possibility that there was no MH370, and this has all been to divert the worlds attention from a Russian/Chinese lead plan to hide my ****ing ipod
#335
Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
To be honest, this whole incident has very little to do with the UK anyway - although it has been Inmarsat providing information (I think I read they are also the original source of the pictures from the Indian Ocean currently being searched).
The UK has a ship on the way to help, HMS Echo.
How many super speccy planes have the US provided for the search?
The UK has a ship on the way to help, HMS Echo.
How many super speccy planes have the US provided for the search?
It's sad to see the end of a warrior nation
#336
Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Could someone (Garry maybe?) quickly recap where we are with this, that many different stories I have lost track now.
Did we ever find out where the pilot's family went to?
Did we ever find out where the pilot's family went to?
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Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
Having got friends who are arline pilots I really feel for them. One of my friends is a total airliner devotee and spends much of his spare time on simulators, reading anything aircraft related, watching air disaster dvds etc - nothing sinister about any of it, he has just lived and breathed flying since he was about 9 years old.
#339
Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
I think that covers the 'facts' at the moment.
#340
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a P3 Orion just flew over my house. I've seen a couple today already plus a Globemaster. I'm listening out for the Poseidon.
I don't think they are going to find anything, sadly. Hope I'm wrong though.
[edit] just watching the news, it wasn't a Globemaster it was a Chinese heavy lift aircraft, heading out to the search area at about lunchtime today. The news is the Chinese have spotted something by satellite and I think they've sent their plane out to check it out so they can get the glory if it's MH370. It was this one: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/ful...f-perth-coast/[/edit]
I don't think they are going to find anything, sadly. Hope I'm wrong though.
[edit] just watching the news, it wasn't a Globemaster it was a Chinese heavy lift aircraft, heading out to the search area at about lunchtime today. The news is the Chinese have spotted something by satellite and I think they've sent their plane out to check it out so they can get the glory if it's MH370. It was this one: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/ful...f-perth-coast/[/edit]
Last edited by renth; Mar 22nd 2014 at 10:19 am.
#341
Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
There have been quite a few aviation industry stories run about how it could have been an accident - however I think the primary scenario is now firmly pilot carried out take over and suicide. The story on the family moving out has gone quiet (I think Malaysia is clamping down on potential bad press).
China have just announced that they might have found something on more satellite photos - but for all the evidence on the pics, nobody has yet found floating debris, yet alone tracked it back to any underwater remains.
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The attention all seems to be on the south indian ocean option (seems as if the northern corridor has been downgraded).
There have been quite a few aviation industry stories run about how it could have been an accident - however I think the primary scenario is now firmly pilot carried out take over and suicide. The story on the family moving out has gone quiet (I think Malaysia is clamping down on potential bad press).
China have just announced that they might have found something on more satellite photos - but for all the evidence on the pics, nobody has yet found floating debris, yet alone tracked it back to any underwater remains.
There have been quite a few aviation industry stories run about how it could have been an accident - however I think the primary scenario is now firmly pilot carried out take over and suicide. The story on the family moving out has gone quiet (I think Malaysia is clamping down on potential bad press).
China have just announced that they might have found something on more satellite photos - but for all the evidence on the pics, nobody has yet found floating debris, yet alone tracked it back to any underwater remains.
#343
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Problem is, that doesn't tie in with the actual flight path taken by the aircraft, or with the ping data. And in fact having ping data and 4 hours extra flying doesn't tie in with a fire either.
Thus we get back to intentional action.
#344
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Pilots have been trying to push the idea that the crew heroically tried to deal with a fire, turning the aircraft and then suffering from hypoxia with the plane flying on.
Problem is, that doesn't tie in with the actual flight path taken by the aircraft, or with the ping data. And in fact having ping data and 4 hours extra flying doesn't tie in with a fire either.
Thus we get back to intentional action.
Problem is, that doesn't tie in with the actual flight path taken by the aircraft, or with the ping data. And in fact having ping data and 4 hours extra flying doesn't tie in with a fire either.
Thus we get back to intentional action.
#345
Re: MH370 - Kuala Lumpur to Beijing - missing
The problem with hijack is nobody on the aircraft looks like a likely candidate, and no message got out at all. In theory you might have had someone who was hijacking the aircraft, incapacitated the pilots almost immediately, had the FMS fly a route towards somewhere north, then stack it over the Andaman Islands - but the ping/flight time doesn't work.