Merged threads on violence against Indians in Australia
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Re: Indian Media should apologise to OZ
He used his religion of Hinduism as an excuse for justifying an incredibly racist way of life and view-point.
However, I am intelligent enough (subjective) to realise that this is just one case though and apart from that incident all the other Indians that I have befriended have been really good people.
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Re: Merged threads on violence against Indians in Australia
I was remarkably unimpressed by the letters to The Australian yesterday all saying "aww, yeah, but it can't be racist because things in India are even shittier so screw them!" and "yeah, but isn't this just a backlash against immigration and Kevin Rudd" - as if either of those comments made any sense whatsoever.
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Re: Indian bashing/Yesterdays demonstration
Leaving aside the fact that you're presenting assertion as fact without any citations, if it's racially motivated then it should be recorded as such regardless of what race the attacker is. Vietnamese and Pacific Islanders can be just as racist as whites, can't they? I mean, there's no monopoly on bigotry or ignorance...
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Re: Indian bashing/Yesterdays demonstration
Not just Indians, but mainly Indians and Chinese.
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Open you eyes. I came on PR and have helped people come as students studying hospitality at TAFE. Entrance for the latter was much easier to achieve. It is a low stress course which facilitates working at the same time to fund the course & living costs. Many restaurants have these students working in excess of the 20 hour/week limit on pay below minimum wage requirements.
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Thank God for the way my parents brought me up and the way my grandparents brought them up....
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Re: Is Melbourne safe for indian
Did you notice a pattern here, most of the attacks occur in trains, trams and train stations. Why not hire some security guards who patrol in trains and others who dedicately patrol (during odd hours) at train stations and frisk suspicious looking blokes.. If something dangerous like a knive, weapon is found, they should be immediately arrested, if they can't justify its possession. This will dramatically bring down the assault rate.. I reckon, guards won't be more than 1000.. or even less.. Lot can be done by aussie govt to make the city safe.
Other pattern which I saw crimes are done by thugs who roam in herds... Why not police start quizzing blokes who look ganged up for a potential assault.
Other pattern which I saw crimes are done by thugs who roam in herds... Why not police start quizzing blokes who look ganged up for a potential assault.
Also once out of railway property the way is usually dark and with the potential to be dangerous.
Heard on the radio this morning of an attack at Oats Street Station at midnight last night.Two badly injured,one with stab wounds and other with a smashed bottle across head.
Usually unless very serious is not reported in the media but is not such a rare event.
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Re: Indian bashing/Yesterdays demonstration
Education is Australia's third largest export and the only one that doesn't involve digging stuff out the ground. It's a massive moneyspinner for NSW and Vic especially. We employ more people than most.
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Re: Indian Media should apologise to OZ
Interesting to note normally Right Wing media columnists,namely Gerard Henderson(West Australian,June 2) and another fellow from The Australian(name escapes me at the moment) voiced concern and criticized Vic police refusal to accept any racial element in the crimes even after a number reported abuse did occur.
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Re: Is Melbourne safe for indian
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Think that the Aussie press tends to comply and keep a lid on matters dealing with race but even they found it difficult to sweep under the carpet matters relating to violence against the Indian Student Community.
Interesting to note normally Right Wing media columnists,namely Gerard Henderson(West Australian,June 2) and another fellow from The Australian(name escapes me at the moment) voiced concern and criticized Vic police refusal to accept any racial element in the crimes even after a number reported abuse did occur.
Interesting to note normally Right Wing media columnists,namely Gerard Henderson(West Australian,June 2) and another fellow from The Australian(name escapes me at the moment) voiced concern and criticized Vic police refusal to accept any racial element in the crimes even after a number reported abuse did occur.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I...ow/4606234.cms
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Kanan says that the police did not offer any help like arranging ambulance or offering first aid. "They kept asking questions like what did they do to you and who are they. [When we asked for medical help, they simply said, 'take a taxi. We know what our job is, you bloody overseas'," he recalls.
Joy Shah, 23, came from Ahmedabad to study hotel management in Holmes College, Melbourne. He says that the police demand proof of assault or abuse in order to take action. "How can we give proof of abuse?" says Shah.
Kanan recalls that after getting beaten up at the station, he reached Western Hospital Footscray. He says that no doctor attended to him for more than 8 and half hours as he waited bleeding and in pain. Discharged within 24 hours despite offering to pay whatever the cost, he says, "They simply said, come for a follow-up later."
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To me, this is a more disturbing account from one of the victims:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I...ow/4606234.cms
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Kanan says that the police did not offer any help like arranging ambulance or offering first aid. "They kept asking questions like what did they do to you and who are they. [When we asked for medical help, they simply said, 'take a taxi. We know what our job is, you bloody overseas'," he recalls.
Joy Shah, 23, came from Ahmedabad to study hotel management in Holmes College, Melbourne. He says that the police demand proof of assault or abuse in order to take action. "How can we give proof of abuse?" says Shah.
Kanan recalls that after getting beaten up at the station, he reached Western Hospital Footscray. He says that no doctor attended to him for more than 8 and half hours as he waited bleeding and in pain. Discharged within 24 hours despite offering to pay whatever the cost, he says, "They simply said, come for a follow-up later."
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/I...ow/4606234.cms
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Kanan says that the police did not offer any help like arranging ambulance or offering first aid. "They kept asking questions like what did they do to you and who are they. [When we asked for medical help, they simply said, 'take a taxi. We know what our job is, you bloody overseas'," he recalls.
Joy Shah, 23, came from Ahmedabad to study hotel management in Holmes College, Melbourne. He says that the police demand proof of assault or abuse in order to take action. "How can we give proof of abuse?" says Shah.
Kanan recalls that after getting beaten up at the station, he reached Western Hospital Footscray. He says that no doctor attended to him for more than 8 and half hours as he waited bleeding and in pain. Discharged within 24 hours despite offering to pay whatever the cost, he says, "They simply said, come for a follow-up later."
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Re: Indian Media should apologise to OZ
"The term comes from the French verb trier, meaning to separate, sort, sift or select."
Emercency departments will treat life threatening conditions such as heart attack, stroke and road accident victims before they treat blackened eyes. Indian or otherwise.
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Re: Indian Media should apologise to OZ
To my mind Australia far too often seems to accept an inferior service in so many aspects of daily life and the populace seldom demands better.
If one thing that may come out of this debate is that it has been shown a number of foreign students are unhappy with Australia in terms of their personal safety and standards of education available to them in this country(not new,has been voiced for years)
Also exposes the myth that Australia is a completely harmonious multi racial society in the way many would claim.(This does not necessary infer it is a racist society,but still learning perhaps to accept difference)
Any challenges to this view would appear to have only a limited voice as spin deafens any dissent to a large degree.