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Manners!
I have always noticed how Australians very rarely say "excuse me please" when they want to get past you. They just stand there and wait for you to move. Then when you do, they never say "thank you" do they?
Trouble is now, it's starting to really become an obsession for me I reckon! I'm standing still on purpose now!!:o My hubby the other day, got told to "learn how to F****** drive you pommie ba*****" by some very charming Aussie woman driving like a thoughtless idiot! Charming!:blink: |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4309078)
I have always noticed how Australians very rarely say "excuse me please" when they want to get past you. They just stand there and wait for you to move. Then when you do, they never say "thank you" do they?
Trouble is now, it's starting to really become an obsession for me I reckon! I'm standing still on purpose now!!:o My hubby the other day, got told to "learn how to F****** drive you pommie ba*****" by some very charming Aussie woman driving like a thoughtless idiot! Charming!:blink: |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4309078)
I have always noticed how Australians very rarely say "excuse me please" when they want to get past you. They just stand there and wait for you to move. Then when you do, they never say "thank you" do they?
Trouble is now, it's starting to really become an obsession for me I reckon! I'm standing still on purpose now!!:o My hubby the other day, got told to "learn how to F****** drive you pommie ba*****" by some very charming Aussie woman driving like a thoughtless idiot! Charming!:blink: |
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Originally Posted by BigDavyG
(Post 4310574)
Once a convict always a convict, though how did the person in question know that you were a pom ??
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Hi,
We are in Qld, have been here since July 06 and have been horrified at some of the very rude and unnecessary ways in which we have been spoken to, some from shop assistants but mostly as we were buying our own house, the estate agent we had to deal with was the rudest person I have ever come across in my life, I just stood open mouthed, gob smacked at the way she was talking to us. I have relived the moment in my head a hundred times with me ripping her head off but was just so shocked at the time both hubby and I stood there like a pair of plonkers, god I regret that!!! Anyways we have also had the other extreme of people bending over backwards to help and assist us. I really believe that the Aussies are just a bit more basic than us and don't see all the politeness of us Brits necessary, I don't think personally, it is intentional, most of it anyway. |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4309078)
I have always noticed how Australians very rarely say "excuse me please" when they want to get past you. They just stand there and wait for you to move. Then when you do, they never say "thank you" do they?
Trouble is now, it's starting to really become an obsession for me I reckon! I'm standing still on purpose now!!:o My hubby the other day, got told to "learn how to F****** drive you pommie ba*****" by some very charming Aussie woman driving like a thoughtless idiot! Charming!:blink: |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by BigDavyG
(Post 4310574)
Once a convict always a convict, though how did the person in question know that you were a pom ??
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Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by The S's
(Post 4310595)
Hi,
, the estate agent we had to deal with was the rudest person I have ever come across in my life, I believe you!! A friend of mine (who's Jamaican) went to a home open once and was asked by the agent "do you have PR and a job?" !!:mad: He asked the agent if that was a question asked to every person attending a home open! Racism is rife here. |
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Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4310643)
I believe you!! A friend of mine (who's Jamaican) went to a home open once and was asked by the agent "do you have PR and a job?" !!:mad: He asked the agent if that was a question asked to every person attending a home open! Racism is rife here.
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Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by The S's
(Post 4310595)
Hi,
I really believe that the Aussies are just a bit more basic than us and don't see all the politeness of us Brits necessary, I don't think personally, it is intentional, most of it anyway. I agree. But that's not how I was brought up and certainly not how my kids are being raised. What's the old saying; "manners maketh the man". Politeness and courtesy costs nothing does it eh? |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 4310644)
When we were buying we were asked if we were PR too and weren't allowed in to view a few times because we aren't. We also got turned away in the early days because we didn't have pre-approved funds and we were asked that too.
Also, whether you have PR or not should not affect your ability to buy property here. There are ways around that hurdle. |
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Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4310652)
Hang on a minute, I was talking about a home open when any person is allowed in through the door, irrespective or race/employment status/PR or the colour of your knickers!
Also, whether you have PR or not should not affect your ability to buy property here. There are ways around that hurdle. |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by northernbird
(Post 4310660)
I am agreeing with you Tracey, no need to get nasty.
You seem to be rather paranoid nb. |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4310652)
Hang on a minute, I was talking about a home open when any person is allowed in through the door, irrespective or race/employment status/PR or the colour of your knickers!
Also, whether you have PR or not should not affect your ability to buy property here. There are ways around that hurdle. It can take weeks if not months to get approval and in a hot market you would go to the back of the queue. - Not something I agree with but estate agents aren't known as the brightest tool in the tool box now are they? I know of some buyers agents who will not deal with non PR individuals because of the hassle and they do feel sorry for those caught in that situation - its not personal. |
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Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4310663)
I wasn't getting nasty :confused:
You seem to be rather paranoid nb. |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4310647)
I agree. But that's not how I was brought up and certainly not how my kids are being raised. What's the old saying; "manners maketh the man".
Politeness and courtesy costs nothing does it eh? |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4309078)
My hubby the other day, got told to "learn how to F****** drive you pommie ba*****" by some very charming Aussie woman driving like a thoughtless idiot!
Charming!:blink: Hope you run into the majority of easy going (travelled) aussies - but most likely you will meet these out of the car.:thumbup: |
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Originally Posted by thebears
(Post 4310678)
It is charming isnt it how people often turn to nationistic slander:( They are a small minority:sneaky: its just they stand out :eek:
Hope you run into the majority of easy going (travelled) aussies - but most likely you will meet these out of the car.:thumbup: I'll be honest here, I've not met many 'travelled Aussies'. Perhaps it's because I'm over here in the West and the Aussies here reckon it's the best place to live in the world. Not bad really since they've not seen anywhere else in the world!;) |
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I think they look at you and decide whether you have the money or not. A friend of mine managed to buy 3 properties whilst here on a business visa (they didn't realise that you needed approval!) and I think that the agents assumed that he was allowed to based on his job and demeanor.
However, I don't think that this is limited to Australia, it certainly happens in the UK but I think they would probably be much more aware of someones skin colour before saying something |
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Only the other day there was a heavily pregnant woman standing at the side of the road with a little kid waiting to cross, no bugger stopped so I did.
Did she thank me, of course not she didn't even acknowledge me. |
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this is a huge issue with me:(
no pleases and no thankyous, heres an example i was checking out of the big 4 camp site in sydney on friday, handed over my swipe card for my deposit refund, the lady behind the desk requested the key, "i didnt have a key" i told her, she said hang on i will check. Out comes another lady "no deff a key you will have to find it before we give you your deposit back" i politely tell her i have no key, the swipe card was the only thing i had, she then gets all arsey and says , and i quote "look, this card does not get in your door, you need a key to open you door, go get the key"!!! :mad: to which i reply, "you go get in my car and i will drive you to the cabin, there is no key hole"............. she tells me i am wrong to which i say well you check the cabin cause i aint going no where without my deposit, to which she shruggs her shoulders!.............:mad: the original assistant then says are you sure you werent given a key to cabin one, "what? i say i was in cabin 56, not one"!!! arrrrrr they say, no key for cabin 56!!!!!!! they then carry on in silence, i was bloody fuming, there was load of people behind me, i said, are you not going to say sorry, they say we have nothing to apoligise for???????? just ignorant and down right rude, i dont want my children learning this and im ashamed to say they are! :o customer service is pants |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4310686)
I'll be honest here, I've not met many 'travelled Aussies'.
On average, 27% of Australians travel overseas every year, while 38% travel interstate for their holidays. |
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
(Post 4310787)
Perhaps if you travelled more, you'd meet some.
On average, 27% of Australians travel overseas every year, while 38% travel interstate for their holidays. I can google as well... 'Overseas travel by Australian residents increased by more than 16,100 trips or 5% in the month of November 2006. "Holiday" and "VFR" travel increased by 6% in the month under review, with departures for "business" reasons up 1%. In total, Australian overseas travel was recorded at 4.9 million in the year ended November 2006' That's 4.9 million departures.. not sure how that equates to 27% of Australians... and given the nature of the Australian population I would wager that a large percentage of those people travelling overseas would be people travelling to their birthplace. As for travelling Interstate.... what the Hell does that prove? :confused: |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
(Post 4310787)
Perhaps if you travelled more, you'd meet some.
On average, 27% of Australians travel overseas every year, while 38% travel interstate for their holidays. I know a lot of Aussies who have never stepped foot out of this place. They spend their vacations down in Albany and think they've had a culture change! When I've asked why haven't they travelled to Europe/USA etc, they usually answer with either "What for, I have everything here" or "can't bloody afford it mate!" You are a travelled Aussie...a rare breed. You will be able to enlighten your peers when you eventually get back won't you? But alas, after spending so much of your time in the West Mids, the reports, I'm sure, will not be a glowing repartee of delightful anecdotes of quaint English customs and characteristics!;) |
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Originally Posted by mandtooz
(Post 4310771)
this is a huge issue with me:(
no pleases and no thankyous, heres an example i was checking out of the big 4 camp site in sydney on friday, handed over my swipe card for my deposit refund, the lady behind the desk requested the key, "i didnt have a key" i told her, she said hang on i will check. Out comes another lady "no deff a key you will have to find it before we give you your deposit back" i politely tell her i have no key, the swipe card was the only thing i had, she then gets all arsey and says , and i quote "look, this card does not get in your door, you need a key to open you door, go get the key"!!! :mad: to which i reply, "you go get in my car and i will drive you to the cabin, there is no key hole"............. she tells me i am wrong to which i say well you check the cabin cause i aint going no where without my deposit, to which she shruggs her shoulders!.............:mad: the original assistant then says are you sure you werent given a key to cabin one, "what? i say i was in cabin 56, not one"!!! arrrrrr they say, no key for cabin 56!!!!!!! they then carry on in silence, i was bloody fuming, there was load of people behind me, i said, are you not going to say sorry, they say we have nothing to apoligise for???????? just ignorant and down right rude, i dont want my children learning this and im ashamed to say they are! :o customer service is pants |
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Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4310846)
You are a travelled Aussie...a rare breed.
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Originally Posted by Sleeping Beauty
(Post 4310848)
i personally find that the aussies do not seem to have been brought up with the same emphasis on manners as other countries (thats me trying to be polite :D). in some ways, they can be polite. BUT, the occassions that we take for granted, where manners can be used, just does not happen over here. they think they are not being rude, its just how australia and its people are. i also get annoyed when people dont acknowledge that you have let them cross the road/let them out of a side street into the flow of traffic etc etc. i find it infuriating because i am always drumming it into my kids heads, manners dont cost anything and manners will go a long way. they have been brought up to say please and thankyou and i often receive comments on how nice my childrens manners are. then they see people hardly using their manners as the norm. i hope these manners they have doesnt dissipate the longer we live here.
agree! it consistently drives me bonkers:frown: why why why do the ozzies stand behind you when i have my children in the buggy and am blocking the aisles, when i look up, they look at me like dirt on their thongs! why dont they say excuse me please :confused: i dont have eyes up my a***e |
Re: Manners!
Originally Posted by gedge
(Post 4310849)
similar characteristics to a travelled pom perhaps?
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Originally Posted by mandtooz
(Post 4310867)
agree!
it consistently drives me bonkers:frown: why why why do the ozzies stand behind you when i have my children in the buggy and am blocking the aisles, when i look up, they look at me like dirt on their thongs! why dont they say excuse me please :confused: i dont have eyes up my a***e |
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Originally Posted by mandtooz
(Post 4310867)
agree!
it consistently drives me bonkers:frown: why why why do the ozzies stand behind you when i have my children in the buggy and am blocking the aisles, when i look up, they look at me like dirt on their thongs! why dont they say excuse me please :confused: i dont have eyes up my a***e Isn't it infuriating? Whenever I go down an aisle, and there are people blocking the way, I always say :excuse me please" and "thank-you" when they move. They still look at me as if I've got a bloody nerve asking them to move! :sneaky: I initially found it very difficult to be rude, because I am a polite person (honest, I am!) but now I don't. |
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Originally Posted by Sleeping Beauty
(Post 4310876)
.............and, if you are anything like me, then apologise for being in the way :D
yes:rofl: |
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Originally Posted by TraceyW
(Post 4310877)
Isn't it infuriating? Whenever I go down an aisle, and there are people blocking the way, I always say :excuse me please" and "thank-you" when they move. They still look at me as if I've got a bloody nerve asking them to move! :sneaky:
I initially found it very difficult to be rude, because I am a polite person (honest, I am!) but now I don't. i must admit to now talking over people!!! and i swear i wouldnt do that, but i can never get a word in edgeways!!!! so have to continue talking, as i am being spoken to!:rofl: i will have to make a concious effort not to do it back in england:) |
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I reckon I shall need etiquette lessons if ever we return!:lol:
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Christ!
I have met rude people all over the world. Even in the UK. I have noticed no proliferation of 'ruder' people here where I live than I did in England. In fact, people are MORE pleasant here than where I lived in the UK. Where there are people, there is rudeness and other human attributes. I know plenty of pleasant, well mannered Australians and those that aren't, I ignore, just as I did in the UK. This mb is going down the pan. |
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Originally Posted by iPom
(Post 4310917)
Christ!
I know plenty of pleasant, well mannered Australians and those that aren't, I ignore, just as I did in the UK. |
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 4310951)
I have yet to meet a downright rude Australian... plenty of incompetent ones in the stores for sure... but never rude.
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Originally Posted by iPom
(Post 4310917)
This mb is going down the pan. |
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Originally Posted by iPom
(Post 4310955)
My mother used to say something along the lines 'When you're perfect yourself, then you are in a position to criticise.'
Well I'm OK then. Who would you like me to criticise?. ;) |
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Originally Posted by fraser
(Post 4310957)
You must be perfect;) :p
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
(Post 4310958)
Well I'm OK then. . ;)
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