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Old Dec 5th 2011, 10:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Bix
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There are two sides to a viewpoint and the opposite to yours is that comparing homosexuals to straight people is very offensive.
Why?
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Old Dec 5th 2011, 10:22 pm
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A pretty narrow view of history really, when you think about how prolific and mainstream homosexuality was in other times and cultures like ancient Greece. And fag hunts??
Didn't take long - they were on the table outside.
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I really don't see the problem here.

Every vegetarian at a dinner party leaves more meat for the carnivores....
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Originally Posted by slapphead_otool
I really don't see the problem here.

Every vegetarian at a dinner party leaves more meat for the carnivores....
I thought gays ate meat?
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Originally Posted by Bix
According to your definition anything that exist is natural.
The things I quoted exist so are in your terms equally natural. As far as I'm concerned they are all equally repulsive.

There are two sides to a viewpoint and the opposite to yours is that comparing homosexuals to straight people is very offensive.
My definition is not as you describe at all. It was claimed that homosexuality was unnatural and I pointed out it was not because it occurs in nature in the behaviour of many other lifeforms on the planet. To go from this to saying that I claim anything that happens on Earth is natural is stupid.

I'm not sure it matters anyway because it shouldn't make any difference if gay people conform to your definition of what is natural or not. What we are saying is that they should have equality before the law.
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Originally Posted by sheene
I thought gays ate meat?
I prefer a badly packed kebab to a sausage any day of the week....
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I prefer a badly packed kebab to a sausage any day of the week....
What about weekends?
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Originally Posted by sheene
What about weekends?
Alcohol induced abstinence........
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My definition is not as you describe at all. It was claimed that homosexuality was unnatural and I pointed out it was not because it occurs in nature in the behaviour of many other lifeforms on the planet. To go from this to saying that I claim anything that happens on Earth is natural is stupid.

I'm not sure it matters anyway because it shouldn't make any difference if gay people conform to your definition of what is natural or not. What we are saying is that they should have equality before the law.
Wriggle, wriggle.
So it's only what you say exist in nature. Not the other things that exist in nature as they don't suit your argument.
Is that what they call natural selection by Calliope?
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Alcohol induced abstinence........
You do realise some people are trying to have a serious discussion?
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Originally Posted by Bix
Wriggle, wriggle.
So it's only what you say exist in nature. Not the other things that exist in nature as they don't suit your argument.
Is that what they call natural selection by Calliope?
Serious question Bix - what would you do if one of your kids or grandkids were gay? Would you accept them for who they are even though you're against marriage in a gay relationship?
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
It used to be... probably still is in some parts of the world.

Perhaps shagging dead people will become acceptable one day... just as long as the corpse has nice hair and looked like they worked out?
Some of the English girls I seduced in the 70s may as well have been dead.

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Originally Posted by Bix
Wriggle, wriggle.
So it's only what you say exist in nature. Not the other things that exist in nature as they don't suit your argument.
Is that what they call natural selection by Calliope?
It is unnatural for humans to be flying at 30 thousand feet, but that does not make all passengers deviants - unless they are on Easyjet.
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It is unnatural for humans to be flying at 30 thousand feet, but that does not make all passengers deviants - unless they are on Easyjet.
can't you be bloody sensible just for once
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Originally Posted by Bix
Wriggle, wriggle.
So it's only what you say exist in nature. Not the other things that exist in nature as they don't suit your argument.
Is that what they call natural selection by Calliope?
I'm not sure why you are trying to equate what is natural with what is good or permitted?? If you give me your definition of natural we can end this and move on to why you have such strong objections to gay people getting married when it has nothing to do with you.
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