moneypenny20

It's ok, who reads the whole thread anyway?

pompeyblonde

'Taste for young girls'??? taste for children you mean, some as young as nine, and groupies hopefully consent some of these children were attacked and raped! some in hospital...

and those of us who lived through the 70s know full well it would have done no good to report it at the time, even grown women at the BBC couldnt complain.... and now we find out about all the stuff win the hospitals he visited and how he theatened the police....its really a HUGE can of worms and there will certainly be people still alive who were involved and felt entitled to be doing what they were doing...... awful

ozzieeagle

Have you seen this story.... re the Beach Boys and Groupies around the early 70's... and they were regarded as one of the 'cleaner' bands of the times.

Now I really dont think this would happen today, It would be all over the papers and net in no time at all. I'm absoultely sure it was par for the course back in those days.

I know JS was definitely no angel... and he probably went slightly further than a pick up from a smorgasboard of groupies at the stage door. I 100 pct stand by my argument that indeed things were looked upon in a very different light back then.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalis...ys-and-me.html


I can also provide further expieriences of my early work years back in the early 70's.... I in fact started work in a Merchant bank back then.... 16yo's and married 30 Year olds... and my married Cousin his mates 14 year old daughter when he was 32.... She was the one that copped the stigma within their circle... and that was in 1980.

moneypenny20

I totally agree that it was different then, both in terms of what was considered 'commonplace' and how it was dealt with (or not) but it was still illegal. Does it mean that because at the time the deeds were allegedly done, that nothing should be done about those alleged deeds now? Should it all be shoved under the carpet and just have people mutter about how it must never happen again? Or should there be an inquiry and if proof is found regarding individuals still living, should they be prosecuted?

knockoff nige

When was the first conviction of paedophilia? Was it pre 1970's? I feel silly to ask that as there was more than likely plenty of them before 1970 but the reason I ask is because if there werent any convictions of it back then, people would surely be far less likely to report stuff like that as it would be unclear as to what the implications would be.

ozzieeagle

It's a fine line IMO.... How can a 15 year old consent with a bloke in his 30's... especially in these times... there in lies the crux of the matter for me.

MP dont you remember all those forward 14/15/16 year olds travelling around in the 20 YO +local likely lads cars back around those times, with their parents blessing apparently.. That was everywhere... much to the annoyance of boys like myself... who stood no chance with those more "available" girls because of the competition of wheels v Public transport.

To judge JS and others like him 30 years on, just seems a tad unfair to me... unless it was a totally forced episode.

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Kapri

The police would still prosecute now, even if the parents were ok with it. In fact the parents would probably be prosecuted too if they condoned it and didn't keep her safe.

ozzieeagle

Apart from the seemingly obvious that things were seen in a different light then and by the early 80's those kind of dalliances were becoming very iffy... Any idea why they haven't/didn't... just to set example. Maybe its because they were married for a while ?

ozzieeagle

BLIMEY

Ok some indefensible stuff coming out on the 50 plus pages on my other board... Stoke Mandiville and Leeds Mortuary.

moneypenny20

It seems totally horrific that nurses will tell a child to stay in bed and pretend to be asleep so that JS doesn't get the opportunity to do anything but at the same time, allow a child to be given a 'treat' of driving around the area in his Rolls. I don't know how I'd live with myself if I were one of the seemingly dozens of people who turned a blind eye.

ukecadet

What's been going on at the morgue?You can't leave me hanging on that

moneypenny20

I think he means Leeds General Infirmary.

ukecadet

I'm struggling now with a feeling of relief and a strange disappointment.

moneypenny20

TheArmChairDetective

Incontinence will do that !


I see on TV that they are thinking of digging saville up.
Now seeing as his coffin is allegedly encased in concrete, I wonder what will be achieved by digging up his remains, I doubt any reside will remain of his filthy activies, unless of course they just want to publicly hang him ?