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Old Apr 13th 2012 | 6:54 pm
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Originally Posted by rajj
Space & Arms programs are a must ...will generate revenue in the future. Since they got into the 'arms' game, the US attitude to india changed dramatically. Makes me laugh when people on this forum rant on about it given the benefits they've enjoyed directly linked to the arms industry in the uk.
Missing the point slightly Rajj, the people on this forum who enjoyed the benefits of the arms industry paid for it in the first place. They didn't expect someone else to subsidize it.......

Im rally not sure how you can justify a space program or an arms race when so many Indians life in abject poverty and so much needs doing.

Perhaps we should offer doses on common sense instead of money.... (which is exactly what i was advocating in this thread).

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Old Apr 13th 2012 | 7:10 pm
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Missing the point slightly Rajj, the people on this forum who enjoyed the benefits of the arms industry paid for it in the first place. They didn't expect someone else to subsidize it.......

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If were getting to the basics, then NO they didnt pay for it.... moot point but it can be argued colonisation for 200 + years of every part of the world & plundering paid for it.... UK has progressively got poorer after the colonies ended. Benefits of plundering lasts a few generations.

What part of the indian arms industry is the UK subsidising?.
 
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Im rally not sure how you can justify a space program or an arms race when so many Indians life in abject poverty and so much needs doing.

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Space programs could well be very profitable in the future. I remember a similar 'discussion' in the late 70's with a moron who was arguing that india should not waste money on building up a computer software industry with so many poor!! Computers were a western 'luxury' then.

You may not like to hear it given your superiority complex, but they are working on eradicating poverty and I reckon quite sucessfully.
 
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If were getting to the basics, then NO they didnt pay for it.... moot point but it can be argued colonisation for 200 + years of every part of the world & plundering paid for it.... UK has progressively got poorer after the colonies ended. Benefits of plundering lasts a few generations.

What part of the indian arms industry is the UK subsidising?.
Really mate, I don't think you can argue that the British plundered the Empire. in fact exactly the opposite. I was in India many years ago and at that time pretty well EVERY bit of bloody infrastructure was what the British had left behind.

By paying for the basic infrastructure that india should be paying for itself, it is allowing India to waste money on space and arms projects - things that it simply cannot afford to be doing...
 
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You may not like to hear it given your superiority complex, but they are working on eradicating poverty and I reckon quite sucessfully.
With other peoples money.....
 
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Perhaps we should offer doses on common sense instead of money.... (which is exactly what i was advocating in this thread).
If the common sense comes from hateful jealous people like you, then keep it...india does not need it.
 
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Really mate, I don't think you can argue that the British plundered the Empire.

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I think that most the non british commonwealth members would argue that thats complete bollox.
 
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Really mate, I don't think you can argue that the British plundered the Empire. in fact exactly the opposite. I was in India many years ago and at that time pretty well EVERY bit of bloody infrastructure was what the British had left behind.

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The East india co bled india dry ...dont kid yourself.
 
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Originally Posted by rajj
I think that most the non british commonwealth members would argue that thats complete bollox.

Hmmmmm - not from the former colonies that i have been in.

But feel free to put some evidence up, instead of speculation.
 
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The East india co bled india dry ...dont kid yourself.
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By paying for the basic infrastructure that india should be paying for itself, it is allowing India to waste money on space and arms projects - things that it simply cannot afford to be doing...
You cannot compartmentalise the budget for your argument..Also the aid in overall terms would be worth a peanut or two given the size of indias growing budget. And govermental aid as ive argued is rearly aid...its strings.
 
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Evidence?
Try google as I certainly cannot be bothered to find the bleedin obvious.
 
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Try google as I certainly cannot be bothered to find the bleedin obvious.
I take that as an admission of failure mate...
 
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You cannot compartmentalise the budget for your argument..Also the aid in overall terms would be worth a peanut or two given the size of indias growing budget. And govermental aid as ive argued is rearly aid...its strings.
Rubbish.

Its simple: India is squandering money on "show" and not spending it on its needy - and even worse, expecting others to pick up the slack.

India doesn't need a man in space, it needs to feed and educate its children.
 
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I was in India many years ago and at that time pretty well EVERY bit of bloody infrastructure was what the British had left behind.

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True but woopie do!! 200+ years for a railway line, great.

What is clearly britain's legacy in india is the democratic heritage left behind which has left the country richer. Leads to slower economic progress but worth it.
 


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